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Originally posted by chrismarco
reply to post by Logarock
That's a hard thing to say as to whether or not you would change your mind on gun control if you child was murdered by a gun...would you mind change if your child got his hands on a gun and accidentally shot himself? Say it was locked up and through something like youtube he was able to get around the lock? This decision is so difficult because although I understand the right to have a weapon we are doing a terrible job keeping these guns either off of the streets in in the hands of some lunatics....
This gentleman was or is still a member of the NRA...
Wow...this link is so completely freaking biased and wrong. If we are going to tell stories that are once sided, lets make sure their are facts and not what someone wrote in a book. Yoshihiro was not shot in the house, he was not alone, and he understood english completely. Yes, all three of these facts make the story seem more in favor of strict gun laws. This should let you know that I am completely neutral in this. HOWEVER, these two situations are completely different. In once instance you had a person walk straight into a school, past so many opportunities to have been stopped, and took place over an extended period. With the situation in Louisiana, this was a chaotic time where the shooter wasn't even aware of what was going on, just instinctively reacted to his wife and what appeared to be going on. Again, lets compare apples to apples and do it with unbiased facts.
The only way to understand people's view point as well as stay fair, is to keep the facts straight and not sale your point through bull#.
I just looked at the faces of the kids that were killed and I can't imagine the pain that the family is feeling and the reminder of what this date will feel like for them the rest of their lives...it seems like their is no compromise so it's either all or nothing..I just hope what ever is done they beef up illegal handgun possession to be a bigger crime than it already is...
Originally posted by tjack
reply to post by Logarock
Good on you, we are doing the same with our children as well.
Been thinking hard about this all weekend and it occurred to me, access control (to the school) and infrastructure would be a much better place to be putting our thinking and dollars than gun control.
Take away guns, and the intelligent psychotic killer with a plan to do harm will simply move to the next-most-convenient way to do so. Take that away, and then they'll choose the next thing and so on and so forth.
Killers can be very creative as has been previously demonstrated.
Think about how much money is spent each year making sure bad guys can't get out of prisons. Guards, bars, alarms, perimeter fences, etc. .
Now think about how much is spent making sure they can't get IN to a school.
Think about how much money is spent on building infrastructure to minimize the possibility of a devastating fire taking lives. Sprinklers, alarms, fire extinguishers, emergency lighting, fire doors, exit signage, DRILLS, etc. We take fire very seriously.
Now think about how much is spent with regards to "active shooters" in our schools, which to me nowadays seems more likely to occur than three-alarm fires.
We seem to spend PLENTY making sure the police departments are all equipped with the latest in military gear, so when something does happen, they're sure to show up in armored cars body armor and all that.....after the fact, but ok at least they look cool and imposing while counting the bodies.
Seems to me that we could do much more on the front end and have a much better net effect of minimizing this horrific crap rather than blaming inanimate objects and imposing even more "feel good" legislation that will again have no effect.
Originally posted by kozmo
Those who are driven to respond emotionally will almost completely lose their ability to respond rationally.
That is both the motive and the point. The events were tragic - do not make the mistake of buying the problem, cause, solution that is being presented by the politicians and MSM. The goal is to drive you to an emotional response. Once emotional, you are pliable and logic is what they tell you it is.
Originally posted by babybunnies
If your child was a victim of a shooting (I would definitely NOT wish that on anyone) I bet your views on 2nd amendment rights would change pretty fast.
Just speak to almost anyone who has lost a loved one to a shooting and see if they still support right to bear arms.
Originally posted by SuperTripps
The real solution to help crazy people
Personality order like many diseases can be cured by simple minerals like lithium
Society refuses to talk about it and assumes drugs and feeding this medical beast is a solution it's not
The drug this kid was on has a major side effect of violence
Perhaps a doctor should be put in jail over this
Originally posted by Logarock
I have five children. If my children were to be victims like those in the school shooting I would certainly feel the same way as the parents of those children.
Having said that it wouldnt move me one bit to change my 2nd amendment convictions.