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Originally posted by Obdnar
reply to post by captiva
Do not fret, my Kilted brother, I am from the southern states, and we learned alot from the war of northern aggresion. Google Quantrill's raiders, ignore the propaganda, and realize how effective guerrilla warfare can be. Civil war II is coming We will not comply or surrender this time. 'William Wallace...Freedom..."
Originally posted by captiva
reply to post by DoYouEvenLift
Your comment shows me that you have given in and more than that, it shows me you know you have given in. I cant think of a more suitable quote to prove that bearing arms is needed..
Originally posted by jimmiec
There will be new gun legislation but the Democrats are not all against gun ownership and their base isn't either. If they go too far they will lose a huge portion of their base and you will see a Republican majority in both the House and Senate next election cycle. It will likely go like this. A ban on assault type weapons and ammo clips more than ten rounds. The weapons in America now will be exempt with a grandfather clause. This will give the public the perception that something was done. The problem is not just guns. It is a mental health issue. It is a media issue and it is a Hollywood issue. Unless all three are addressed it will not effect the problem. Places with the tightest gun control laws suffer the highest gun crime rates. Criminals are generally cowards and do not mess with anyone they think could be armed.
Originally posted by jerryznv
Actually...how is that any different than me being pulled over?
Need to know basis...
Depends on who needs to know...right?
Originally posted by captiva
As we travel this road of lost freedoms and hidden government agendas, there is a thorn in the flesh of those who want to see us live in total servitude. They are using all their propaganda tools to create a "Problem. reaction, solution" scenario to have this thorn removed so they can continue their masterplan.
This thorn is the 2nd Amendment, our American cousins right to own a weapon. Dont let them change public opinion as you, whether you like it or not, are our last defense. I am Scottish and have noticed the media over here starting a campaign to sway opinion as to the sanity of your country allowing ownership of guns. The newspapers are full of it as is the local and national news.
Please hold fast...whether everyone is aware or not right now....we the world, need you to fight for your rights to carry arms.
Originally posted by jimmiec
reply to post by DoYouEvenLift
It most definitely is the case. Washington D.C. and Chicago have the highest gun crime in America.
Originally posted by Hellas
I swear I'm gonna make a gun Thread, too!
This is getting ridiculous
Originally posted by MrWendal
Originally posted by jerryznv
Actually...how is that any different than me being pulled over?
Need to know basis...
Depends on who needs to know...right?
In most States people who carry guns in their car, especially those who have registered weapons and concealed carry permits, ARE required to inform an Officer that they have a firearm the second they are pulled over. It is the first thing they must do.
In my State, I am not required to register any firearm I own. I can keep a firearm in my car. I am not required to tell the Officer anything unless I have a concealed carry permit, which at that point I am required to register my firearm and inform an Officer.
Originally posted by Avgudar
I'm not an american either, but I cannot fathom how you Scots can call the Americans your "cousins". They are not. They dissidents and traitors of England. Furthermore, I think you Scots should separate from England. Why do you embrace them as your overlords?
Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
Right on. Too many people seem naive, and think that the Constitution is antiquated. This is wrong. The Founding Fathers possessed great foresight, and included the 2nd amm. for a darn good reason, which is to allow people the means to resist a tyrannical government. Looking back throughout history, even recent history although too many people still do not know things the government has done, it is probable that even Americans may one day have to face factions of their own military and government in an armed conflict, and will need guns.
Firearms also act as a deterrent to the government, as it is more difficult to take away the rights of the citizenry when they can fight back. So this is partly why they want to take our firearms away. And how will they accomplish taking away our right to bear arms? They will simply perform operations that get the people into an uproar over guns. Those people who do not understand why we even have the right to bear arms. These false flag operations are being seen plastered all over the news just about every single day, and the government's own documents PROVE to us that they really do perform these false flag operations, and are quite willing to kill American citizens to get their mission accomplished...Which in this case is taking our guns away, thus taking away the majority of our power.
What incentive do those in power have to step-down in our democratic system, instead of going after more power? The fact that the people can fight back is what is stopping them. But once they have no armed opposition, there will be factions of our government who collude to gain more power, which ultimately means doing away with democracy, and installing a totalitarian regime. It is not even worth the risk, no matter how many shootings will be stopped. It is not the fault of the gun that some person goes out and kills people, rather it is the fault of the person. Why should all citizens be denied their Constitutional right to bear arms just because a small minority cannot handle themselves?
And this is not even mentioning personal protection. Who is going to protect those who have their houses broken into? You think the cops are going to get there that quickly? No, people need to be able to protect themselves. Take away guns and the criminals will still get them, since they don't obey the law...And then the citizenry who follows the law will be at an extreme disadvantage. I guarantee you that there are many more people who do things the legal way, and do not commit any crimes with their weapons, than there are who use their firearms illegally. How does anyone disagree with what our Founding Fathers, people who were much smarter than any of them, have set up for our country? It has worked pretty well up until this point, and the majority of the times it did not work are because of crooked elements of our government and its entities, and not because of any flaw in what they themselves created.
There were some things that have changed with the times, but the 2nd amm. is not one of those things that needs to be taken out. Taking us off the gold standard was another big mistake, yet the people did nothing. The government will always, at certain times, attempt to get away with whatever they feel they can get away with, and they will go after bigger and bigger things unless the people stand up and say no. And without weapons, when that big thing arrives, if the people only have their voices, then they will be able to do nothing to stop those in power.