Aust schools safe following US shooting

Oh, and as for safety in our schools, I'm homeschooling for sure. school for me was physical and mental torture, and kids are just getting worse. No way I'm putting my daughter through that.

Originally posted by Mr Tranny
The reason they don’t have as many school shootings is the au population is 1/15 the US population. So there will be less shootings per year even with the same number of shootings per capita. And that it is just that no one has wanted to.

edit on 16-12-2012 by Mr Tranny because: (no reason given)

Yes but there's no where near the same amount per capita, people need to stop saying it's related to the population.

Originally posted by bkaust
Oh, and as for safety in our schools, I'm homeschooling for sure. school for me was physical and mental torture, and kids are just getting worse. No way I'm putting my daughter through that.

Then find a better school. Home schooling is cruel and will only negatively affect your daughter, children need to be around other children. Home schooling can't even come close to school in terms of education and experience.

Originally posted by pheonix358
reply to post by Mr Tranny

 

Except that we have never had a school massacre. Out list is blank, how about yours?

Culture makes a great difference!

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Here's to cultural differences and let's hope it stays that way. Because this tragedy is enough to make parents on the other side of the world a little nervous.

Originally posted by winofiend
Yep, your all one stop shop..

You're so full of it I can't even begin.

Tell that to the drug dealers on the streets of Australia

aca.ninemsn.com...

www.abc.net.au...

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Well, that's your opinion. And what I choose really isn't up to you whatsoever.

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by Mr Tranny
The reason they don’t have as many school shootings is the au population is 1/15 the US population. So there will be less shootings per year even with the same number of shootings per capita. And that it is just that no one has wanted to.

edit on 16-12-2012 by Mr Tranny because: (no reason given)

Yes but there's no where near the same amount per capita, people need to stop saying it's related to the population.

?
en.wikipedia.org...:_Americas
en.wikipedia.org...:_Oceania

If you go by rampage killers where more than 10 people were killed.

You will find that there has been 9 mass murders in the US (that is including the one that just happened)

And Australia has 1.

That is a 9 to 1 ratio.
The population radio is 15 to 1.
So we can still have 6 more massacres before you have your next and we will still be even.

If we go by rampage killers where more than 2 people were killed

US 78
Australia 5

15.6 to 1.
Again, population is 15 to 1, so we are about even.

If we go by how many rampage killers actually attempted to go on a rampage, no mater how many people actually died.

US 90
Australia 8
11.5 to 1
Again, population is 15 to 1.

So, by those figures, we need to do some more rampage killing to keep up. We are starting to fall behind aussies in the statistics.

Originally posted by bkaust
reply to post by SpearMint

 

Well, that's your opinion. And what I choose really isn't up to you whatsoever.

It was advice, and it's not an opinion. I would resent my parents home schooling me if they did.

Originally posted by Polonia

Originally posted by magma
reply to post by Polonia

 

So is that reason the schools are safe? Because it is hard to get guns?

Or is it a cultural thing?

Well we don't have school massacres if that's what you are asking.

As far as culture goes, we are a pretty layed back society and if you have an arguement with someone, you don't need to worry about them pulling out a gun and blowing your head off.

edit on 16-12-2012 by Polonia because: (no reason given)

I don't know where you come from but you obviously hav'nt lived in Sydney and its western suburbs. They do shoot and stab each other all the time just turn on the news.

Originally posted by Mr Tranny

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by Mr Tranny
The reason they don’t have as many school shootings is the au population is 1/15 the US population. So there will be less shootings per year even with the same number of shootings per capita. And that it is just that no one has wanted to.

edit on 16-12-2012 by Mr Tranny because: (no reason given)

Yes but there's no where near the same amount per capita, people need to stop saying it's related to the population.

?
en.wikipedia.org...:_Americas
en.wikipedia.org...:_Oceania

If you go by rampage killers where more than 10 people were killed.

You will find that there has been 9 mass murders in the US (that is including the one that just happened)

And Australia has 1.

That is a 9 to 1 ratio.
The population radio is 15 to 1.
So we can still have 6 more massacres before you have your next and we will still be even.

If we go by rampage killers where more than 2 people were killed

US 78
Australia 5

15.6 to 1.
Again, population is 15 to 1, so we are about even.

If we go by how many rampage killers actually attempted to go on a rampage, no mater how many people actually died.

US 90
Australia 8
11.5 to 1
Again, population is 15 to 1.

So, by those figures, we need to do some more rampage killing to keep up. We are starting to fall behind aussies in the statistics.

That's a load of crap.

For starters, let's keep on topic, school shootings. link

There's no point in limiting to 10 killings, that's stupid.
Australia: 0
US: 17

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That spells it out pretty clearly. Interesting how all but one of the shooters in the top 10 commited suicide. 50% of the top 10 are from the USA

Originally posted by SpearMint
For starters, let's keep on topic, school shootings. link

There's no point in limiting to 10 killings, that's stupid.
Australia: 0
US: 17

Considering the other statistical comparisons held out, that means, statistically speaking, you are about due for a school rampage.

Just saying.

Originally posted by Mr Tranny

Originally posted by SpearMint
For starters, let's keep on topic, school shootings. link

There's no point in limiting to 10 killings, that's stupid.
Australia: 0
US: 17

Considering the other statistical comparisons held out, that means, statistically speaking, you are about due for a school rampage.

Just saying.

That would be pretty dissapointing .

Thankfully Australian schools are safe.

And you also have to keep in mind that a “shooting rampage” is a strict definition. There has been shootings in Australian schools, but they don’t classify as a “rampage”

Two examples are…
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

A "rampage", as for as they (wiki) classify is..

Mass murder cases with six or more dead (excluding the perpetrator)
Mass murder cases with a double digit number of victims (dead plus injured)
Mass murders by intention with at least a dozen victims (dead plus injured)

I love living in New Zealand
We only have the occasional nutter shooting people.
I feel sorry for you guys who have to deal with weekly / daily tragedy.
Guns must be licensed & locked away in a safe storage container to stop nutters getting hold of them .

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The monash one is a workplace incident.

Originally posted by Mr Tranny
If you go by rampage killers where more than 10 people were killed.
You will find that there has been 9 mass murders in the US (that is including the one that just happened)
And Australia has 1.

Its also worth pointing out this single solitary example is...
- back in 1996
- STARTED the trend towards tougher gun laws in Australia.
If we wish to look at the comparison between Aus and the USA at this point in time today, we cant include the Port Arthur attack because at happened back in the time of looser gun regulation.

So the list is Australia = 0

Originally posted by Polonia

Originally posted by okamitengu
its not hard to get an illegal gun in australia.

whoever said that is living in a cave.

I disagree with you on that one. I believe 90% of law abiding citizens in Australia wouldn't have a clue where to obtain an illegal firearm, let alone a clean untraceable one.

I'm an American, and I wouldn't have a clue about how to buy a gun illegally, either.

The problem is more complicated than "guns."

I went to High School in the mid to late 80's -- in wacky liberal Southern California -- and my suburban high school had a shooting team. They literally brought their guns to school, and nobody ever got shot.

Whatever is going on here, it's bigger than just "guns."