Originally posted by GunzCoty
reply to post by vor78

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Please read my post above you.
What more do you want?

So if owning a gun keeps all of these things from happening, why are you no free'er living in the USA today than say if you compare with Ireland, France, the UK or Japan. The citizens of these countries are being treated no differently to US citizens and fire arms are illigal so your whole point is mute as far as I can see.

Originally posted by michael1983l
reply to post by PsykoOps

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The US is the general bringer of Tyrany. Owning or not owning a gun will not change that. Guns in the wrong hands ends lives FACT. In fact guns have very little other uses than bringing death. Why some people are so keen on holding onto that is mystifying.

I'm pro gun. For reasons that doesn't involve the whole bs. about stopping tyranny. I should've made that clearer

When the Revolutionary War ended and the Americans were making their new Constitution, they were very aware of the need for self-defense. They still needed protection from Indians and they wanted to be able to defend themselves from any external enemies that might arise. They were also very aware that the new government they were creating could turn corrupt and they wanted to defend themselves from it if necessary.

After all, Thomas Jefferson had written in the Declaration of Independence that if a government failed to protect its citizens and instead became the enemy, the citizens had the right to overthrow it! So one reason the citizens wanted to be armed was not just for defense against external enemies. They wanted protection from their own government!

Originally posted by michael1983l
reply to post by vor78

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I could be perfectly healthy when I apply for my gun license, but mental illness can occur at any time and generally cannot be predicted. Doing a background check is merely a snapshot of time that is irrelevant the following week. Whilst guns are legal and so readily available, people with Mental Health problems and people with general irresponsibility and disregard for life will always get their hands on them.

I could be perfectly healthy when I apply for my gun license, but mental illness can occur at any time and generally cannot be predicted. Doing a background check is merely a snapshot of time that is irrelevant the following week. Whilst guns are legal and so readily available, people with Mental Health problems and people with general irresponsibility and disregard for life will always get their hands on them.