double post

Originally posted by tomorrowseer
I may have been wrong that Sandy Hook is part of the Batman Universe, I am not well aware at all with the comic's but I did look up one of the "Gotham Maps" that has been posted in media and comics to give reference to batman's city. The Walkie-Talkies really make it difficult to judge if this is even a good observation, but Sandy Hook looks to be the same as "South Hinkley" which is a bottom area on this Gotham map that I found online. Any thoughts on a play of words? Both start with the Letter S, and have the second word H

Sure, I'll bite...

Because Oswald Mannor or Wilkes Booth Heights sounded too obvious?

Or

They changed it because "South Hinkley" (see John Hinckley Jr.) is soooooo like crusty old MKgrade programmed zombie stuff that ALWAYS results in emotional attempts to (successfully, for a time) curtail gun rights. Hinckley case is absolutely rich in high weirdness and a good look into him and...resulting laws...connections to Bush family...and the roots with Tavistock should get folks up to speed in no time when trying to understand what (or whom) motivates "the lone nuts" that get sprinkled on our sundaes when TPTB want to wrangle us sheep into the fold.
Seriously though, this is a distraction from much more seriously obvious hokey pokey. It's all there.

Odd coincidence. Nothing more. People who are suggesting this is proof that the massacre was planned are not all there mentally. For your theory's to even make sense somebody in the production crew would have to be undercover NWO agent..don't think so.

How strange, perhaps we are subconsciously giving ourselves clues ahead of time.Think minority report.

Do you people just go around harassing people that have the right to there own free speech......How bout this....you find a thread that you actually like and leave our side of the sandbox alone please......If you don't agree than don't read it..simple. This is a CONSPIRACY THREAD!!! If you don't have something to add to our cause than you are just wasting our time. Its like being mad at a bird for being a bird...it gets you nowhere except upset and nobody likes being upset....Love to all and to all a good night

Originally posted by Caverly1976
Do you people just go around harassing people that have the right to there own free speech......How bout this....you find a thread that you actually like and leave our side of the sandbox alone please......If you don't agree than don't read it..simple. This is a CONSPIRACY THREAD!!! If you don't have something to add to our cause than you are just wasting our time. Its like being mad at a bird for being a bird...it gets you nowhere except upset and nobody likes being upset....Love to all and to all a good night

No, I think you'll find that ATS is a discussion board, where we can all state our opinions and views. Do you really think that there should be threads where anyone who disagrees with the OP should not be allowed to post? That would defeat the purpose and make ATS a very boring place.

And I think your analogy to playing in a sandbox is very apt for this thread...this is why some people have a different opinion on this OP as it is reducing a serious crime to spotting clues in batman movies...sheesh...

While interesting, and while I can consider the possibility, I don't feel it really makes for a particularly compelling case, personally. Yet. We need more evidence before making up our minds that something more than a disturbed individual was responsible for this tragedy. I'll explain why.

Over the years, there have been a lot of conspiracy theories and predictions comprised primarily by extremely improbable coincidences, synchronizations, and relationships that were so overwhelmingly unlikely to simply be random coincidence, that they seemed inescapably compelling. There was absolutely no way these things could simply be coincidence. There was simply far too much evidence, too many things that added up, and too many signs and obvious clues demonstrating that something was really going on.

And yet... in many, many instances (the vast majority in my experience) they turned out to be nothing and were thoroughly debunked beyond refutation.

We have a tendency to believe that when enough circumstantial evidence lines up in the right manner, that the case for the conspiracy theory becomes compelling and overwhelming. But this is not the case. One of the most important lessons I've ever learned delving into this sort of subject matter is that, no matter how improbable it may seem, astounding series of coincidences, synchronizations, clues, signs, names, and places, really can turn out to simply be random coincidence. It happens all the time on ATS and elsewhere. (For just a tiny sampling, check out the topic in my signature.) Part of it is sometimes confirmation bias. Part of it is just that crazy, improbable things really do happen.

That does not mean that there is nothing to this, or that we should assume that's all this is. What it means is that this is not a compelling enough reason to believe wholeheartedly in the conspiracy theory on its own. It makes this a starting point for further investigation. A place to begin the search for further evidence, should it exist. And because it may, those interested and so inclined need to dig until they find it, or find evidence to the contrary debunking the theory, one or the other. But on its own, this isn't enough by my standards. I understand and respect why many would think it is. But that's just my honest opinion.

Peace.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
I have what I think are pretty good deductive reasoning and logic skills, and here's what I've got.

either
Pure coincidence - nothing more.

or
Question: Is there any validity to the LIBOR scandal testimonies before congress connecting Holmes' dad (FICO software developer), and (and being the key word here also) Lanza's father (a high ranking tax exec with GE)? That's key.

If none, question - nevertheless was Lanza in any way "inspired" by Homles ie: dressed in black fatigue with bullet proof vest (and mask)?

In case two, that's irrelevant to this discussion even if it were the case (copy cat aspect),

but if there's anything to these reports about high level finance people with super brilliant kids on heavy drugs and/or other "influences" whether directly from their immediate environment or not (remotely) who then go out and basically explode, going off like a bomb, as if set, and killing as many people as possible in the most terrifying manner, and yes even as an act of terrorism against civil society, at it's heart and core, where it lives (at the theater, at school), then

This "discovery" might then not be a coincidence at all, but instead a sick "gift" from the PTB to the "conspiracy theorists" to make of us the crazy ones, maybe even who from our numbers they might eventually "cull one from the heard" like a rabid Alex Jones fan for example (just kidding!).

But if it's a possibility.. (puffing on pipe) the connection, if any.. - then again on the other hand, as has been pointed out, it's a place near NYC upon which "Gotham City" was designed and the creators of the Batman movie are from New York - thus, a "coincidence" factor might STILL exist in SPITE of evidence in regards to their being any connection between the two fathers and LIBOR via high finance. We MUST bear that in mind (said like Holmes - the detective that is).


But if there's any sort of "programmed Manchurian human explosives" connection in ANY of these mass shootings, ANY of them, any two that is, then as President Obama sits in the Oval office - some among us would hope that he might for a second stop and SLAM the desk and DEMAND to know if there are or have ever been any such Black-ops set up as a method by which to ultimately realize a certain political agenda? Demand to know and to kill any such programs (if they are running), cancel them DEAD. Children - my God! That's just horrific and beyond belief.. (that could be part of it too, if a psyop the big lie factor involve and the degree of incredulity involved in such a conspiracy ie: that of turning a human into a robot).

The "clues" that are left maybe (it could still be just a coincidence, either way as I pointed out) they are made by design to marginalize and make to appear as crazy and insane, the conspiracy theorists (us, the very people in this thread..!) which could mean that someone among our "proclivity" could be their next target - that's the anti-government meme squashed utterly right there, if you can bring into the fold and cull from the heard, say a rabid Alex Jones' fan, or someone who's a member at ATS (God forbid it, but there was one crazy who once was a member here for a short while, forget who he was now) and brand the entire "Conspiracy Theory" population (which is LARGE and growing) as total nutjobs on the edge, forever paranoid that the evil government is out to get them, right leaning, gun toting, preppers..

The mother someone said was a "prepper" and the husband, potentially someone who might be connected to the other father via LIBOR and the high financial "matrix" of people.

There COULD be a connection, that's all we're saying.

If so and if the thing from the movie isn't a coincidence - then it's arrogance, and maybe even a type of future targeting, you know generate the meme, find a target, and create the coverstory - already done in Homles' case re: Batman.

# I think maybe I've been spending too much time here at ATS!

It can make you paranoid, but you sometimes they say that perfect paranoia is perfect awareness, and against certain evil powers and principalities, I wouldn't put anything past them.

And if I were Obama, I'd look to the real cause. Mental health is one issue, guns a minor issue (you could have safety locks on guns, with a combination only the owner knows, maybe?), but if the actual TRUTH of the matter is that the American people have been under attack by black bag, black-op psyops, then if Obama's to do something about it then maybe he'd be well served and would serve the American people well, and his God well, by identifying it, and putting a cancel on the operation and the whole dark shadow government while he's at it.

How's that for being both rational and paranoid both at the same time? Hopefully I get to DRINK a Silver Bullet this Christmas though instead of getting one to the head!

Best Regards,

And Merry Christmas!

NAM

Bumped because I think it might have gotten overlooked .