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Imagine the time, far back in history, when you became a human being for the first time. It may have been thousands of years ago, millions or perhaps billions depending on your age as a soul, as it is called. It may have been on this earth, or another earth in a galaxy far away.
When you first became a human it was because your soul passed a major initiation. This caused your "individualization" as a human ego. This individualization was a big step for you. It was as big of a step for you at that time as overcoming death will be for you in this age for there are no soul initiations (as there are individual initiations) between individualization and overcoming death, or entering the Kingdom of God. At individualization we entered the kingdom of the humans which was as overwhelming for us at that time as will be the entering of the Kingdom of God for us now.
When you individualized you left the animal consciousness behind and assumed a new consciousness, the human, which is to say the individual. You did not know what it was like to be a single and separate individual until this happened.
The lower animal consciousness is an identifying consciousness that does not relate to the feeling of separateness. Those in the God Kingdom are not separate, but they understand and relate to this feeling because they have passed through it as humans. The feeling of separateness must be experienced and finally directed toward a cooperative union which is a much higher stage of non-separateness than that experienced by the animals.
The animal does not realize that it can be a separate and distinct being for it relies heavily on instinctual feeling identifying heavily with nature and other lives. Man, on the other hand, sees himself as separate and therefore loses this identification with nature and often acts in opposition to it. This is why man has acquired the dubious title of "the enemy of nature." Nevertheless, the end of this lesson will be good, for man will comprehend the majesty of nature as he enters the Kingdom of God and will, from that kingdom, enhance and assist nature and make up for all the wrongs he did as a separate human... Go to the links to read more
Originally posted by Angle
We all know beforehand what is wrong to do but sometimes it does not feel wrong. When reached this state of awareness, stay it and do no wrong.edit on 16-12-2012 by Angle because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Angle
Not much time to the great depression? Where are we in time?
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by hawkiye
Thats why I didnt go any deeper because this OP is not making a clear discussion happen. Very vague and seems to already know everything about Karma and reincarnation although a slight difference with my beliefs is an understatement for now. Again, very vague one liners do not help clarify the thoughts of the OP.
Originally posted by Angle
As I see it from what some would call biblical perspective: What some call past lives karma can be declared simply as the sinful nature of our being at birth. We do not know exactly where we got it from; past life karma but what we then cannot figure out is from where exactly we took it upon us, see; we can't look back and all other explanations should be explained as received by spirit. We were born, newborn, with built-in 'mistakes',....... Sin?? maybe I am bringing this to you in the wrong way.
What just came to mind is this: Reincarnation. When one dies the body is left to rot and becomes dust. Reincarnation is the reformation of this exact dust to the body you had, so you were not recreated in the womb.
Food for thoughts? I just thought I explained this in a clear way.edit on 16-12-2012 by Angle because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Angle
reply to post by Akragon
That sounds more like demonic teaching to me.