Minister orders anti-vaccination group to change its name

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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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Minister orders anti-vaccination group to change its name


www.news.c om.au

The NSW Office of Fair Trading doorstopped the home of Australian Vaccination Network president Meryl Dorey yesterday with a letter of action, labelling the network's name misleading and a detriment to the community.
NSW Fair Trading Minister Anthony Roberts fired a broadside at the AVN, saying the information it provided was a public safety issue of "life and death".
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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Another case of dangerous quacks being pulled up for misleading the public - an excellent outcome.

now if only ther was some way to hammer the individuals concerned for the damage their disinfo is doing to the people who are unfortunate enough to beleive their nonsense.

It is "funny" how people like this will often cry that the medical fraternity neds to be held responsuible, etc......but they don't want to be held responsible themselves!!

www.news.c om.au
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 02:21 PM
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Happen to agree with them and would never ever subject my family to any for of vaccinations, save for pain killers or what is absolutely necessary for surgery or hospitals. Also finding their link and having it switch over to a different promoting pills, it seems the evil worlds murder incorporated team are at work suppressing truth again.
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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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so how many hundred kids per year would you be happy to see dying of measles?? Or is it that you think that, say, 5000 cases of encephalitis per year (that's BRAIN DAMAGE) from measles in the USA alone is a good idea??

Polio - you think that 10,000+ polio cases in het US would be more deireable than vaccines perhaps?

Just how do you jsutify thinking these are some sort of desireable outcomes?? what sort of genocidal maniac are you?????


blog post on the same topic:


There is no doubt that Dorey’s organization has nothing to do with helping people understand the need for vaccines, it is purely an organization to scare parents from obtaining vaccines through lies, misinformation, and anti-scientific nonsense. Dorey disingenuous methods have been outed as clearly antivaccinationist.



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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Great news for common sense.

To all those anti-vaccination drama queens who think that vaccinations are bad, I say take a look at the effects of smallpox.

www.who.int...

Regards



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Creating The Polio Epidemic

Scientists, and some of the braver doctors, now wonder if the Polio Epidemic was caused by the high number of tonsillectomies done in the 1920's through the 1940's. They discovered that the only organ in the body which synthesizes the antibody for Polio (Poliomyelitis) is the tonsils. Persons with removed tonsils have extreme difficulty resisting infections by the Polio Virus. In the 1920's, 30's and 40's, children tonsils were removed regardless of their health. This was supposedly done for the sake of preventive medicine against tonsillitis, since allopathic doctors were falsely trained that the tonsils served no purpose. Traditional Chinese Medicine and Alternative Medicine had long recognized the tonsils as a crucial component of a strong immune system, but leaders of the orthodox medical establishment claimed that they needed scientific tests to prove that these internal organs were actually there for a reason, even as they continually ignored the consequences of removing them. This unique version of science is still practiced by the A.M.A., and the damage done by Polio resulted from it.




Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever
-Robert Heinlein
vaccines contain mercury, formaldehyde, etc known to cause brain damage= stupid
Q: why promote them then?
A: see above quote

it should be obvious by now that somebody's got a Toxic Agenda
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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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vaccines contain mercury, formaldehyde, etc known to cause brain damage= stupid


In small doses, if actually present at all - no pediatric vaccines in the USA contain any mercury at all any more.

And of course not all mercury compounds aer actually dangerous in the first place - a distinction lost on people who would like to return to the days when children are killedin their hundreds by preventable diseases!


Q: why promote them then?


Because they save 10's of thousands of hospitalisations, and hundreds or thousands of deaths every year - just in the USA alone. Worldwide the figures are in the millions.

We are fortunate to live in an age when these horrible diseases do not kill hundreds of children each every year - and that is mostly thanks to vaccines.

why do you want children to suffer again?

the idea that silver could treat polio is utter nonsense. Silver is a topical antibiotic - it is useful in wound dressings - but no use whatsoever in treating Poli - which is VIRUS not a bacteria!!


Edit: Oh and of course silver is a heavy metal that is toxic to humans too - ironic that you should post that it is some sort of magic bullet!


In humans, accidental or intentional ingestion of large doses of silver nitrate has produced corrosive
damage of the gastrointestinal tract, abdominal pain, diarrhea, vomiting, shock, convulsions, and death (U.S.
EPA, 1985). Respiratory irritation was noted following acute inhalation exposure to silver or silver
compounds. Silver nitrate solutions are highly irritating to the skin, mucous membranes, and eyes (Stokinger,
1981).
- Study

What's this yuo say - that is silver nitrate, and that's not what is used in dressings? so what? it contains silver - and you make the same argument about mercury and thimerosol - it contains mercury so therefore is be dangerous.
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posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:59 AM
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This website has been ordered to change it's name by the Office of Fair Trading.
The important part is "FAIR TRADING".

Quack websites like this only push agenda-ridden misinformation.
Good on the Ozzies for making a stand against huskters like this.

Lets hope it continues and starts getting rid of other quack websites too.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 02:06 AM
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The toxic agenda has been working so well that people's life-expectancy is increasing every year and populations are increasing almost exponentially.

To prove your lack of knowledge on the subject you posted a video from David Icke. Enough said!

One of your quotes stated "Ignorance is cureable..."
Obviously not in your case.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

vaccines contain mercury, formaldehyde, etc known to cause brain damage= stupid


In small doses, if actually present at all - no pediatric vaccines in the USA contain any mercury at all any more.


Oops wrong again.
www.naturalnews.com...




And of course not all mercury compounds aer actually dangerous in the first place - a distinction lost on people who would like to return to the days when children are killedin their hundreds by preventable diseases!


Whoops not quite right. Thimerosal is very dangerous in cumulative doses. The russians banned it's use.
articles.mercola.com...
www.opednews.com...
www.naturalnews.com...



Because they save 10's of thousands of hospitalisations, and hundreds or thousands of deaths every year - just in the USA alone. Worldwide the figures are in the millions.

We are fortunate to live in an age when these horrible diseases do not kill hundreds of children each every year - and that is mostly thanks to vaccines.


But the damage that vaccines do when given to large numbers of people? Whats the total death rate of those infected with dangerous diseases vs. the percentage culled from widely distributed vaccines?
articles.mercola.com...

Most of the vaccine side effects go unreported or worse are covered up. The autism epidemic is probably one of the worst coverups of this nature. What is the total human toll in autoimmune disorders, which are likely triggered by vaccines.

If you want to dig further into some real conspiracies, what if our vaccine program is the chief cause of cancer as we enter old age?
articles.mercola.com...
edit on 17-12-2012 by SevenThunders because: url wrong



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
In small doses, if actually present at all - no pediatric vaccines in the USA contain any mercury at all any more.

If you really work at it, you might find a mercury-containing does of DTaP or influenza vaccine. I don't know if they're approved for or used with children, but I guess it's possible. And, while it is not routine, I imagine some kids may get a mercury-containing meningococcal vaccine. Again, you'd have to work at it, since most contain no mercury whatsoever, all are available in mercury-free form, and many that do contain mercury have only the barest of trace amounts (nanograms instead of micrograms).

www.fda.gov...

The point is moot, since no real harm has been scientifically attributed to vaccine thimerosal, even in the relatively larger doses present in a few vaccines. An infant will clear it in a month, and even repeated doses are naturally flushed out of the body. The dose makes the poison, a few micrograms of thimerosal isn't poisonous, and it's excreted so quickly it will never become poisonous.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

vaccines contain mercury, formaldehyde, etc known to cause brain damage= stupid


In small doses, if actually present at all - no pediatric vaccines in the USA contain any mercury at all any more.


Oops wrong again.
www.naturalnews.com...


You are right - my apologies - I should have written no NEW pediatric vacines in the USA have any mercury in them. source





And of course not all mercury compounds aer actually dangerous in the first place - a distinction lost on people who would like to return to the days when children are killedin their hundreds by preventable diseases!


Whoops not quite right. Thimerosal is very dangerous in cumulative doses.


I didn't say thimerosal is not dangerous in cumlative doses
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The russians banned it's use.


the Russians also ban opposition demonstrations....


articles.mercola.com...
www.opednews.com...
www.naturalnews.com...


9 reasons to completely ignore Dr Mercola and Natural News







Because they save 10's of thousands of hospitalisations, and hundreds or thousands of deaths every year - just in the USA alone. Worldwide the figures are in the millions.

We are fortunate to live in an age when these horrible diseases do not kill hundreds of children each every year - and that is mostly thanks to vaccines.


But the damage that vaccines do when given to large numbers of people?


Utterly miniscule compared to what these diseases do to unprotected populations - see my posts earlier for the rates of death, brain damage and mutilation in unprotected populations.



Whats the total death rate of those infected with dangerous diseases vs. the percentage culled from widely distributed vaccines?
articles.mercola.com...


Measles death rates before vaccines: 500 dead in the USA alone on average per year from the 1950's through early 1960's. Actual deaths from measles in the USA over the 13 years to 2004 - 0.3% - 3 per 1000 people who develop measles. Expected deaths in undeveloped countries - as many as 28% of people who develop measles.

Deaths from vaccines in US - ?? Dunno - any??

See reasons to ignore Mercola and Natural News linked above - his "vacines kill children" article you link to above mentions 4 children who died in Nepal, and 2 in India.

He says that 5100 "vaccine related deaths" occured in the USA from 1990-august 2012 - but fails to actually show that vaccines caused any of them at all - he has taken this "data" from the Vaccine adverse event reporting system database - which, if you have done any research at all, you will know is a reporting system of events that is raw daa - there is no attempt in it to positively show that any given event IS defintively linked to a vaccine - some will be, some will not.

Many of the sad deaths of infants listed are obviously NOT vaccine related - the are pre-birth, or premature births for example.

without proper analysis of the data and screening it is dishonest to use the raw data as if it was evidence of any vaccine deaths!


Most of the vaccine side effects go unreported or worse are covered up. The autism epidemic is probably one of the worst coverups of this nature.


Utter BS - contradicted by your own assertions that the side effects are unreported or unnoticed!!


See also "why to ignore Mercola" above!


What is the total human toll in autoimmune disorders, which are likely triggered by vaccines.


Unsupported scaremongering.


If you want to dig further into some real conspiracies, what if our vaccine program is the chief cause of cancer as we enter old age?
articles.mercola.com...


See "Reasons to ignore Mercola" above.

Here's a much more likely counnter proposal for you to consider - one that is actually supported by a whole heap of research, unlike Mercola's rubbish: What if vaccines and real medicine are significant contributors to so many of us getting to old age in the first place
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posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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No matter how you spin it vaccines will never be safe for eveybody so long as vaccine companies and governments think its okay to have an expendable minority.

I am for safer vaccines.. I am not against vaccines.

If they are made safer people will be more likely to take the risk.. right now however the risk is always argued away or dismissed as "rare" and parents are bullied into taking it regardless of their fears. When you try bully people into doing something they are neither confident or comfortable with you'll eventually get people digging their heals in.
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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 02:31 AM
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4 children killed in Nepal? Why don't you add 47,500 cases of polio paralysis induced by the polio vaccine in India.
www.salem-news.com...

It's really just the tip of the iceberg.

The basic problem with vaccines are that they have an unacceptably high side effect rate. Suppose the morbidity rate was 1/1000 for a given vaccine for disease X, that kills or maims its victims 50% of the time. Why then we should give everyone the disease X vaccine right away right? Wrong!

If we gave this vaccine to 100 million children in India, say mandated by the government, then you would have 100 thousand nasty side effects. But what is the infection rate of disease X? What if it typically only infects 20 thousand people once proper precautions are enforced? In that case you only get 10,000 people affected. The disease turns out to be better. There are several examples of this sort of thing with vaccines, wherein widespread adoption is horrifically worse than the disease itself.

For example India has halted a number of UN mandated vaccine programs after finding they were either ineffective or dangerous.
www.weeklyblitz.net...

Then there is always this little gem, vaccines that 'accidentally' contained agents to sterilize their victims:
vanshardware.com...
www.lifesitenews.com...

Sterilization via vaccines, what's next, biochips and tracking devices?





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