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Dangerous Gas may be cause of super-charged weather, mass die-offs, quakes and more

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posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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Just wanted to quote your last post about the car fire with occupants


HURLOCK, Md. -- Three people were injured, one seriously, after their parked car burst into flames this afternoon. Deputy State Fire Marshals are invistigating how the interior of the car caught fire on Mission Hill Road. The three passengers were able to escape the flames just before a propane tank in the trunk exploded. Two were victims were flown to Shock Trauma, and a third was flown to Bayview Burn Center, with burns estimated to cover 60 percent of her body.




posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by JonnyMnemonic
Didn't hear your explanation for the 30-minute zombification there.


The guy eating the other guy's face off was into vodoo and had family said he had been going around with Bible lately trying to fight off what he felt was demonic possession, problem is invoking vodoo Jesus gets you more demonized not less (according to more orthodox Christianity).

Another incident you listed was the guy with 4 Bibles in his car, think it was a cop. Again, this points to a longer term problem, which they intrepreted probably correctly as demonic spiritual forces.

Now, if these were linked to gas, then it would longer term exposure not the results of 30 minutes. Eventually the gas does enough damage to ability of the human soul to control its own body that these beings that are all around us all the time can take over have a nice empty vessel to use. That's assuming the gas connection is there at all.

Now, to me the elite are into religion/spirituality way far more than political, military, or economic power, rather those are secondary to their ritual/spiritual goals. And while the lower level elite may really believe they can become gods, the higher ups all seem to be pretty clear that they serve Satan against the Triune Christian God and they're going to Hell.

Now, you're probably really onto something with jumping jack flash. However, we're doomed from multiple ways, just the increase of earthquakes and the nuke plants over them will ensure our doom, imho.

And, your proposed solution is a united civilization, I just see an attempt to do that hastening the end (in fact that is what the Bible says will be tried right before return of the Lord Jesus CHrist). In fact that kind of leap of faith in humanity seems far less than what is required to believe in Christianity. I mean Obama seems far more intent on being given the titles, attributes, and worship that belongs to the Jesus/God than he does in the USA or the human race, in fact he seems to want everything to crash and burn. So, we're all going to die, probably soon, of Fukushima radiation or something... Nothing to lose and everything to potentially gain by accepting the Biblical Jesus.



posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by UnseenWarfare

Originally posted by JonnyMnemonic
Didn't hear your explanation for the 30-minute zombification there.


The guy eating the other guy's face off was into vodoo and had family said he had been going around with Bible lately trying to fight off what he felt was demonic possession, problem is invoking vodoo Jesus gets you more demonized not less (according to more orthodox Christianity).

Another incident you listed was the guy with 4 Bibles in his car, think it was a cop. Again, this points to a longer term problem, which they intrepreted probably correctly as demonic spiritual forces.

Now, if these were linked to gas, then it would longer term exposure not the results of 30 minutes. Eventually the gas does enough damage to ability of the human soul to control its own body that these beings that are all around us all the time can take over have a nice empty vessel to use. That's assuming the gas connection is there at all.





Here's some information on the hydrogen sulfide gas and its effect on the nervous system. There have been a couple of posts in addition to yours that dispute the ability of this gas to do this damage.




Hydrogen sulfide is more dense than air, and therefore, more likely to pool at lower elevations under still conditions, depending upon topography. When a substance is released either from a large area, such as an industrial plant, or from a container, such as a drum or bottle, it enters the environment. Such a release does not always lead to exposure. You can be exposed to a substance only when you come in contact with it. You may be exposed by breathing, eating, or drinking the substance, or by skin contact. If you are exposed to hydrogen sulfide, many factors will determine whether you will be harmed. These factors include the dose (how much), the duration (how long), and how you come in contact with it. You must also consider any other chemicals you are exposed to and your age,sex, diet, family traits, lifestyle, and state of health.


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In its acute form, hydrogen sulfide intoxication is mainly the result of action on the nervous system. At concentrations of 15 mg/m and above, hydrogen sulfide causes conjunctival irritation, because sulfide and hydrogen sulfide anions are strong bases. Hydrogen sulfide affects the sensory nerves in the conjunctivae, so that pain is diminished rapidly and the tissue damage is greater. Serious eye damage is caused by a concentration of 70 mg/m. At higher concentrations (above 225 mg/m, or 150 ppm), hydrogen sulfide has a paralysing effect on the olfactory perception, so that the odour can no longer be recognized as a warning signal. At higher concentrations, respiratory irritation is the predominant symptom, and at a concentration of around 400 mg/m there is a risk of pulmonary oedema. At even higher concentrations there is strong stimulation of the central nervous system (CNS), with hyperpnoea leading to apnoea, convulsions, unconsciousness, and death. At concentrations of over 1400 mg/m there is immediate collapse. In fatal human intoxication cases, brain oedema, degeneration and necrosis of the cerebral cortex and the basal ganglia have been observed


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posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:33 PM
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And here's a little more about the effects of hydrogen sulfide


It is a chemical asphyxiant like carbon monoxide. Depending on the concentration of the gas, people might exhibit varying symptoms. As Hydrogen sulfide affects the absorption of oxygen, it restricts cellular respiration which can lead to bronchitis and edema in long term exposures. At 0-10ppm : Irritation of throat, eyes and nose leading to watery eyes and nose. At 10-50ppm: causes headaches, dizziness and nausea. At 50-220ppm: Respiratory tract can get irritated, convulsions, can be fatal in severe cases. The rate of dispersion is dependent on the air currents carrying the gas. The gas usually decomposes in air completely by 3 or 4 days. When inhaled, the gas can form stable compounds with the blood. Eventually it can reduce the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood and hence cause respiratory problems. People working in refineries and tanneries are overtly exposed to this gas. And they always run the danger of suffering from respiratory diseases caused due to Hydrogen sulfide. Hydrogen sulfide was found toxic to birds, animals and aquatic life.


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posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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Thanks for the work there, Rez!

If you follow these 'zombie' cases, you'll also notice that in a fair amount of the events, the person acts aggressive and crazy or whatnot, then the cops put the person in the car and the person DIES. These people, who take this kind of damage, when it's severe, they aren't going to live very long. They may no longer be able to feel pain, but their bodies have sustained terrible damage too, not just their minds. The face-eater would probably have died in fairly short order even if they hadn't shot him six times and killed him.

This stuff is no joke. The British weaponized it in WWI for trench warfare for a reason: it's deadly, and it's heavier-than-air so it tended to flow down into the trenches and wipe out the Germans. (Surely scary as hell though, because if the wind would shift, it could come right back at you.) I wish there were more photos (gruesome though they might be) from those days, to get a better idea of what we should be looking for as the concentration, number and size of the atmospheric plumes increase. Alas, I couldn't find any good photos from those days.

jumpingjackflashhypothesis.blogspot.com...



posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by JonnyMnemonic
That's already happened to one of the three friends I have had unexpectedly drop dead recently


What makes you think their cause of death is hydrogen sulphide exposure?



posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by SteveR

Originally posted by JonnyMnemonic
That's already happened to one of the three friends I have had unexpectedly drop dead recently


What makes you think their cause of death is hydrogen sulphide exposure?


Because healthy people who aren't old don't drop dead suddenly in numbers like that and in a fairly short amount of time. Also, all three spent a fair amount of time outdoors, and they were my three friends that lived closest to the bank of the Mississippi River. (So, I can sorta guess who will be the fourth, and she's now suddenly suffering neurological seizures, but I haven't the heart to tell her.) Also, one of them dropped dead in the shower. When that library closed in Ohio after they confirmed the hydrogen sulfide was entering the building via the water supply, well, his dying in the shower made sense. Just over the river, the water now has a 'funny' taste and odor too, as mentioned in the news. So, of my limited number of friends, in a short period of time, 3 have dropped dead and one now has neurological problems. That goes along with the general rise in hydrogen sulfide events around the country and around the world this past year.

jumpingjackflashhypothesis.blogspot.com...



posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Also, wow, scientists have just confirmed an older theory of mine. I was trying to explain the rise in volcanic eruptions and quakes 3 years ago or so, so eventually I came up with 'MISA Theory', which stands for 'Mass-Induced Seismic Amplification'. Here's MISA Theory, from 2010:

www.allvoices.com...

Now, here's scientists today talking about the same exact thing, and confirming MISA Theory:

www.spacedaily.com...

So, I really think it's the volcanoes going off that is causing the oceanic heating, which in turn is releasing the methane and allowing the ancient bacteria that spew hydrogen sulfide to expand their turf.

Huh, I'd actually kinda forgotten about MISA Theory until I read that article today and realized that they'd just confirmed it. Maybe I shoulda been a scientist.

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posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 01:50 PM
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This quote from the story you linked backs up the approach I have with this thread, that this entire theory may also be playing a role in the cause of earthquakes and volcanoes.


Together with colleagues at Harvard University, the geologists and geophysicists searched for a possible explanation. They found it with the help of geological computer models. "In times of global warming, the glaciers are melting on the continents relatively quickly. At the same time the sea level rises. The weight on the continents decreases, while the weight on the oceanic tectonic plates increases. Thus, the stress changes within in the earth to open more routes for ascending magma" says Dr Jegen.



posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by Rezlooper
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This quote from the story you linked backs up the approach I have with this thread, that this entire theory may also be playing a role in the cause of earthquakes and volcanoes.


Together with colleagues at Harvard University, the geologists and geophysicists searched for a possible explanation. They found it with the help of geological computer models. "In times of global warming, the glaciers are melting on the continents relatively quickly. At the same time the sea level rises. The weight on the continents decreases, while the weight on the oceanic tectonic plates increases. Thus, the stress changes within in the earth to open more routes for ascending magma" says Dr Jegen.


Yep, the anomalous weather too. It all ties together. And not in a good way!



posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 02:07 PM
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I just watched weather report on CNN and heard the word rare (in regards to Christmas Day weather coming) five times. They said that Florida and Georgia have seen tornadoes (six) in 2006 and the last before that in 1969 on Christmas Day (rare). And then Oklahoma City has only seen snow (at least an inch) six times in the last 122 years on Christmas Day. Tomorrow they will get 5 to 8 inches as another weather blast comes through. This is the third major winter storm to cross the mid-section of the country this year, all before Christmas (rare), which usually happens after Christmas. Some crazy weather and it just continues.



posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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UK flooding on Christmas Day, and this isn't the first floods of 2012 they have had.


Heavy rain late on Monday could bring more flooding on Christmas Day as the bad weather continues to threaten homes, businesses, roads and railways. Rail bosses urged people not to travel in the south-west of England with the main rail route into Devon and Cornwall blocked until Friday at least by floodwaters from the River Exe between Tiverton and Exeter. Emergency services also warned people not to walk or drive near floodwater.


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posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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Just looked at the date I posted MISA Theory: December 25, 2010. And what was one of the predictions? Increasingly catastrophic quakes and volcanic eruptions, especially in the oceans and near coasts. Just 2.5 months later a gigantic quake hit Japan, right off the coast. I even mentioned Japan specifically in the third paragraph. Not a bad prediction!

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posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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I think this thread about offset moon halos the other night points to changes in the atmosphere. Not that this probably hasn't ever happened before, but it's got to be very rare if it has. The author of thread says he was in Louisiana, and in the post two others say they saw the same thing that night in California and New Mexico. How could this be seen in such a wide area. This was Dec. 22 when this was posted, a few nights ago. These moon halos supposedly precede bad weather, in this case, probably extreme weather. It's funny that now we have a major winter blast rolling across the country right now, dropped a lot of snow out west and going into the plains over night tonight, then severe tornado threats across the south tomorrow. Not sure if these halos can precede these storms by that many days, but on the other hand, not too sure about any of it these days.

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posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Rezlooper
I think this thread about offset moon halos the other night points to changes in the atmosphere. Not that this probably hasn't ever happened before, but it's got to be very rare if it has. The author of thread says he was in Louisiana, and in the post two others say they saw the same thing that night in California and New Mexico. How could this be seen in such a wide area. This was Dec. 22 when this was posted, a few nights ago. These moon halos supposedly precede bad weather, in this case, probably extreme weather. It's funny that now we have a major winter blast rolling across the country right now, dropped a lot of snow out west and going into the plains over night tonight, then severe tornado threats across the south tomorrow. Not sure if these halos can precede these storms by that many days, but on the other hand, not too sure about any of it these days.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Well, methane is lighter than air, so eventually it makes its way to the upper atmosphere. It is clear and colorless. However, I'm wondering if it doesn't have any optical properties. Like a magnifying glass is clear and colorless, but it has optical properties too. So, I am wondering if at least some of these 'super-halos' people are seeing aren't the result of us now looking through a layer of methane, acting as some sort of gaseous lens in the upper atmosphere. It's just an idea.



posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by JonnyMnemonic
Also, all three spent a fair amount of time outdoors, and they were my three friends that lived closest to the bank of the Mississippi River.


A study some years ago showed very low nominal levels of hydrogen sulphide in the Mississippi River. What has changed specifically for it to produce toxic levels of the gas?



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by SteveR

Originally posted by JonnyMnemonic
Also, all three spent a fair amount of time outdoors, and they were my three friends that lived closest to the bank of the Mississippi River.


A study some years ago showed very low nominal levels of hydrogen sulphide in the Mississippi River. What has changed specifically for it to produce toxic levels of the gas?


No one said the Mississippi River (or bacteria in it) are producing hydrogen sulfide. It's produced in anoxic waters, that are warm and rich in biomatter, the 'dead zones' that have been growing in the oceans (and Lake Erie, and the Salton Sea, and surely more than that). Once plumes gush into the atmosphere, winds will blow the gas around, up over mountains, sometimes into the stratosphere and troposphere (wiping out the ozone layer and producing those freak hailstorms being seen all over now, at least until the ozone layer is fully gone). Then, being a heavier-than-air gas, it will eventually drop back to the ground and settle in low-lying areas: ravines, ditches, valleys, quays, canyons, streams, rivers. Just like the water from rain. Why is there water in the Mississippi River? That's the same reason you'd find hydrogen sulfide accumulating there.

This document explains the overall extinction event best, from Scientific American originally:

www.chicagocleanpower.org...

From the nice image included:

A new model for mass extinctions at the end of the Permian period 251 million years ago
and the end Triassic 50 million years later explains how intense global warming could
trigger deaths in the sea and on land. Trouble begins with widespread volcanic activity
that releases enormous volumes of carbon dioxide and methane (1). The gases cause
rapid global warming (2). A warmer ocean absorbs less oxygen from the atmosphere
(3). Low oxygen (anoxia) destabilizes the chemocline, where oxygenated water meets
water permeated with hydrogen sulfi de (H2S) generated by bottom-dwelling anaerobic
bacteria (4). As H2S concentrations build and oxygen falls, the chemocline rises
abruptly to the ocean surface (5). Green and purple photosynthesizing sulfur bacteria,
which consume H2S and normally live at chemocline depth, now inhabit the H2S-rich
surface waters while oxygen-breathing ocean life suffocates (6). H2S also diffuses
into the air, killing animals and plants on land (7) and rising to the troposphere to
attack the planet’s ozone layer (8). Without the ozone shield, the sun’s ultraviolet (UV)
radiation kills remaining life (9).

Note Step 9: UV kills remaining life. People are noticing the increased UV levels. The rise in skin cancer rates, the 'flash burning' of children on that indoor field trip in Louisiana, the increased occurrences of albinism, the skin lesions on whales and dolphins, loss of feathers in penguins. Not every step must be completed before the next begins, so we're just seeing the beginnings of step 9, even as the other steps are still proceeding.

So, any depression is at least a potential source of danger. Also, those 'popping sounds' that have been mentioned in many events, those are small explosions as gas plumes detonate. Some say they sound like gunfire, or fireworks. That's because gunfire and fireworks are ALSO small explosions. (The thunderous house-shaking boom sounds and large flashes of light, those are BIG gas plumes detonating.) I began hearing those popping sounds in the direction of the Mississippi River back in 2010. A year later my friends began dropping dead and one is now suffering neurological seizures.

All of that said, this past year water temps in some rivers hit 97 degrees. A nuclear plant had to shut down on the East Coast because the ocean was too warm for cooling, a first. And there was a 5-degree oceanic temperature spike off Australia too, which scientists say has caused the migration of sharks closer to shore and the increase in shark attacks. All signs of warming waters. So wherever the waters are warming, they'll begin going anoxic, and the hydrogen sulfide problem will be spreading. Could be the Mississippi River WILL be a producer of hydrogen sulfide at some point, even if not yet. The bacteria that produce hydrogen sulfide love to eat fecal matter and we use the river as a sewage conduit to the Gulf of Mexico.

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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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Ok. It is possible that you are right. It is scientific knowledge that this process has happened before in Earth's history. Probably several times. Therefore it can happen again. I've looked at alot of articles on this subject. I find it strange none of them can explain how the Earth's climate returned to "normal". What removed the the excess hydrogen sulphide, methane and carbon dioxide? What caused the downfall of the bacteria producing those gases?

I've also looked at the explanation of the "Jumping Jack Flash Hypothesis" on your blog. Can you clarify for me what makes this hypothesis yours? The fact you have coined your own name for it and the full explanation on your website and this thread gives one the impression you have come up with this theory yourself. Yet, you simply present an already known scientific theory, as in the PDF you linked to and quoted from. Is there anything more to your hypothesis besides the proposition that we are due for another one of these events? Just trying to work out what is original and yours here. It seems that the sum total of your theory is 4 words - "this is happening again". The nuts and bolts of the theory you cite from other sources. Scientists are already warning that the same anoxia extinction scenario may be repeated if carbon levels rise. They talk about hydrogen sulphide also. The only difference is, you state this is happening now (which is very possible). I just don't get what else there is to the "Jumping Jack Flash Hypothesis". Why give it its own name? Unless your just trying to spread awareness? I think the main reason people have put you down in this thread is because a) they are uneducated about the science, and b) it appears as if you have speculated all this yourself and people are naturally skeptical of that, when really, in actuality, nothing about this theory is yours, except for the assertion that the event is happening now. The rest is all in the scientific literature. Feel free to correct me. I am interested to know what is original about your hypothesis besides the aforementioned assertion and the collection of headlines. Where is your creative input here, or do you just collate? I may of course have overlooked something you said in all the reading.


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