reply to post by cdesigns
Are you forgetting a case recently where most of the "deaths" were friendly fire and a good many innocent bystanders were killed by police who were
trying to disarm a suspect by shooting at him? This with officers who are trained to shoot. Can you imagine the numbers of bystanders killed by
civilians shooting at each other? Everybody wants to be Doc Holliday. I don't think that is the answer.
How about we enforce the laws we have?
How about we work on some sort of a gun control slash, mental health compromise, so as to address the serious problems and failures with each of
Nobody is suggesting banning guns (except perhaps automatic weapons and hey why not?) but the reason we have all these shootings is due to
(irresponsible gun owners who do not adequately secure their weapons) the prevalence and availability of weaponry combined with the lack of mental
We should work harder and together, to get mental health issues addressed and not call mental health insurance "entitlements." And we shouldn't just
provide automatic weapons to anyone who wants them because our forefathers approved muskets for a militias. Our "militia" is comprised of nut cases
and they are killing us. We should control and limit
the availability of guns to people who are responsible, know how to use them and to
from possible theft and use by criminals and the deranged.
This is control - Simply being responsible salesman. We all have a right to smoke but doesn't mean the tobacco industry doesn't have some culpability
and responsibility too. I totally disagree with the thinking more people should own guns. That clearly is the problem since reading stats we see more
guns - more murders. It isn't the complicated math.
Now notice I did not say ban guns or affect gun rights at all...we should control them a lot better than we do however and anyone that doesn't admit
that while you give the multitude of OTHER rationalizations, such as "we don't have enough guns" is not thinking clearly or rationally.
Guns are for trained law enforcement, the military or hunters, the wilderness and wide open spaces. They are for personal protection in the home, on
people thoroughly trained, but for Average Joe in heavily populated public spaces?...No. We live in close quarters with each other and it is
impractical and undesirable for us ALL to be armed. This is why some of us moved to more populated areas...to live harmoniously under the rule of law
- Not the every man for himself cowboy mentality. That's why we have places like Texas or Switzerland, if that sort of Maverick lifestyle is for you.
Why pay police if we all have guns? Kind of redundant. We shouldn't need both in big cities.
And though it may be within the bounds of the law -
Do we really need the gun lobby telling everyone to get a gun?
Maybe they should just STFU for a little while.
This "citizens militia" of ours is killing us. Literally.
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