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Evidence THEY Program The Killers (Or Remote-Control Them).

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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 09:21 AM
Call them the CIA, the controlling elites or the NWO, one thing is for certain: some people somewhere are calling the shots. After the JFK assassination, these people have realized how easy it is to do WHATEVER they want to further their agenda; they realized that the people will believe any thing that they hear on CNN as gospel. The shooting of school kids is so "off the chart" of normal human behavior. From JFK to Desrt storm to the Contra rebels to 911- everything fits the same pattern:

1. They want an outcome, like gun control or a phoney war to manifest. They know that the American populace will not agree with war unless they are clearly shown that the "enemies" are sick and despicable- in short a moral outrage must be presented. Remember Desert Storm and the "incubator babies" ruse, Token bay, 911, etc. So step one is to get the people outraged by an immoral event perpetrated by "bad guys"

2. Step two is to rush in and save the day. Notice that after the towers fell we went to war practically overnight with any country that "harbored terrorists", i.e. wherever we had an corporate or strategic interest.
the obvious plan is gun control and they need some horrific event to pull this off- in this case innocent kids being slain.
Our controllers are very intelligent, we have been duped- this is the Matrix. Additionally, on these threads when some one responds to posts that reflect similar sentiments as mine with extreme disdain and ridicule (tin foil hats, etc.) are professional red herring/ straw-man dis info agents who are payed to discredit the truth.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 09:29 AM
reply to post by BinLaden

Why am I not surprised that Bin Laden would know this stuff? Oh wait, that's right...

On a serious note, I agree. It's obvious that many, many strings are being pulled for the sake of the few. Problem is, we don't know what their ultimate goal is. What's the endgame for them? That's what I wanna know.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 09:31 AM
It's funny cause, the CIA is supposed to be working outside of the US....

I guess they're now working against the US...

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 09:51 AM
The notorious MK ULTRA ( manufacturing killers utilizing lethal trade-craft requiring assassinations ) project has been common knowledge for sometime. Its programming methods are know to be quite crude and extremely inhumane. But now there is evidence of next-generation projects emerging, which are utilizing very sophisticated methods to cultivate stealth killers.

We know governments are creating a new class of "super soldiers," but are they also creating a new class of disposable assassins, individuals who can be rapidly programmed to carry out their selfish false flag operations?


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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 09:54 AM
AfteInfinity and Kuroodo

Do not make the assumption that this is sanctioned or planned by the government.

Imagine being the head of a secret gov organisation that knew about this,knows that there are many more out there like these shooters,and knows that they could be anyone.
Your assistant,Chief of Staff,Boss,Wife,the senators aide , the cameraman at the network sent to interview you ,the guy who sells you your mocha frappachino at the corner coffee shop do you then try to undo this?

If they did,as I suspect, manipulate Sirhan Sirhan to kill RFK,who is above their reach.
Could this group be responsible for the dead scientists that we read about?Did some of those guys get too close to something that this group wanted stopped? Speculation I know,but I cannot help but feel that the tentacles of this thing are now vast-and for long term security it requires some high speed computing to ensure the end goal.

The end goal may be more than just soft social engineering. The idea of being a disarmed population should be the least of our worries then.

I seriously am shocked that no one has replied or commented on the Greenbaum speech by Dr D.C. Hammond.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 09:59 AM
I believe that people with weak minds can be controlled. People have been subjected to hypnotization for many years. Naturally, this field has been expanded. We just don't know the new methods....

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 10:06 AM
reply to post by ProjectJimmy

...connections between the mass shooters. Things I will be looking for are common people in their lives, shared experiences, membership in organizations and if they knew each other at all. That will give far better insight...

There was an innocent by-stander at the Aurora shooting that was also a bystander at a shooting in Downtown Toronto's Eaton Center not too long before.

I always thought that was fishy.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 10:11 AM
For six months a few years ago, I was trying to get back on my feet and I lived in Silver Spring, MD, with a friend who at the time worked for the NSA. He never talked to me about his work, and I am not entirely sure what he worked on aside from that he has a PhD in computer science from Carnegie Mellon.

From the moment I started sleeping there, I would have incredibly vivid and bizarre dreams with far more detail than any dreams I have had before or since: entire buildings and street systems that seemed to be from some area in the Southwest or Mexico (places that I've never been before). I can't quite articulate the precision of these layouts. At the same time, there was always one very surreal element, and it was always the same: a shadow in the form of a tall man with bright red eyes who would speak to me and guide me. I could give more details, but my point here is just that I had these dreams continuously every single night I lived in this house, and they were always exactly the same. Other bizarre things happened around that time, most of them "psychological" in nature and at one point I truly believed I was about to do something insane.

Fortunately, as soon as I left his house and found a place of my own in VA, all of these dreams and impressions and thoughts immediately stopped and my life resumed as it always has. Lots of more normal theories could explain that spatial/psychological conjunction, but in the end I have to believe it had something to do with living in that house near a lot of Govt operations.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 10:28 AM
I saw this the other day on TV and thought it was pretty interesting

So it really is not as far fetched as some may think! I recommend watching the whole episode
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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 10:30 AM

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 11:07 AM
One thing that makes me think this is not mkultra / program or mind control... is the fact the kid killed his mother at there home first..... Why would they want him to do this first... it could jeopardize him getting to the school to kill the children which to me would be the main objective....unless they knew killing his mother would be a silent act... pillow in front of gun barrel or silencer... If shots were heard at the mothers house... then I don't believe this is mind control or any thing like that...

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 11:14 AM
Do you know what we call someone with a weak mind? Stupid (lacking intelligence and common sense). Idiot. Or stupid idiot.

Here, I can use it in a sentence: He shot up a bunch of people because he believed such and such? What a stupid idiot.

Don't be stupid like those stupid people.

You don't have to dress it up with diagnostic phrases out of a doctor's book to get past how complex the stupid was in these horrible events. Look at the image: an institution of learning, attacked. These attackers weren't using their head. A good friend would tell their friend in a scenario like this: You're thinking of hurting others like that? How could you be so stupid?

By the way we live in a program, a holographic projection of light. Intelligent design today. Everything influences everything. Now, you want to change this world for the better, not for the stupid.

Reject the programming to be stupid. Don't be programmed like that; have some autonomy.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 11:15 AM
reply to post by Firethefed

He lived with his mom. They would have had to control him through drugs or maybe his psychiatrist (can't confirm he had one but I think it's a safe assumption given his disorder) maybe they feared the mom could piece the story together after the fact.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 11:24 AM
Makes you wonder if the heads of state are controlled by these methods. Bush claimed he was inspired of god to do some of the things he did maybe he actually thought he was literally with voices in his head? But at times he seemed disoriented when being interviewed etc. So maybe they pick someone they feel they can control with this mind control crap and groom them for the presidency and heads of other countries even US State governors etc.

I live in Idaho our governor is Butch Otter he was a congressman and very libertarian when he became governor he changed and though he speaks against all the statist and socialist crap he caves every time and goes along with it. We chalked it up to him just being a trojan horse and a sellout. However Jesse Ventura talks of how CIA is embedded in every state government and when he was elected governor in Minnesota he was called to a meeting with these people and indirectly threatened. If true it would make sense for them to use mind control rather then threats to get heads of state to comply with their agenda.

Not saying I know this for sure but seems plausible IMO.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 11:26 AM

Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by gidwa

I'm sorry, I am not attacking you either, but I am confused now. When you first started talking about the numerology thing, I thought you were saying it was something that the ptb had implanted into the killers' minds (making them do things on certain dates, etc., because they were believing in the magic power of the numbers). But now, when you talk about the ages of victims in mass killings matching the numerology, such as a 3-month old in the theater, well, now it sounds like you believe in the magic of the numbers. Am I understanding right? I mean, how could a mass killer possibly know the ages of the victims in a mass killing, and pick out the right ones to shoot? I don't understand.

That's ok, to be quite honest, I don't fully understand either but I do recognize.

Here's another one with ages-Tucson

Christina Taylor Green, 9,
John Roll, 63,
Dorothy "Dot" Morris, 76,
Dorwan Stoddard, 76,
Phyllis Schneck, 79,
Gabriel "Gabe" Zimmerman, 30,

So we have (reduced) 9, 9, 13, 13, 7(7+9=16, 1+6=7), and 3

and to top it off the 9yo was born on 9/11/01 and the shooter was born 9/10/88-exactly 13 yrs and 1 day apart.

And here's something else that is interesting in this case, the distance between the ages of those killed:

30-9 is 21 (2+1=3), 63-30=33, 76-63=13, 79-76=3

3, 13, and 33...really...

Another researcher into these kinds of things is convinced that the Illuminati (for lack of a better term, please don't nitpick) use a super computer to track all the details and make sure the right people and the right number of people are killed. With the state of super computers these days that is certainly a possibility, but one of which I am not sure.

I wish I did understand how all of those variables are factored for, it would make defending myself on the board a lot easier, but I can't. Like I said, I don't know how, but I know it is. This observation about the ages didn't come from one or two instances--it came from analyzing the ages of the victims every time something like this happens. When the same number sets start showing up time after time after time, one starts to get the idea that it is not just random and if it isn't random, someone or something is factoring for it.

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Thanks. Nobody has all the answers (I wonder if we have any of the answers). I appreciate your honesty, though, and the numbers are interesting, especially scary with the ages.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 11:28 AM
and 'they' are clearly miffed at questions being asked by those of us who don't swallow the crap they present as truth. WE are the bad guys.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 11:47 AM
Stopped reading when you linked the sun newspaper, totally unreliable source, known for spreading utter garbage.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 11:47 AM
It looks as if there's evidence surfacing, which now connects two current mass shootings with the Libor scandal.

source : ______beforeitsnews/economics-and-politics/2012/12/2-mass-shootings-connected-to-libor-2447738.html


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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 11:48 AM
To quote Morgan Freeman:


Morgan Freeman's brilliant take on what happened yesterday :

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."

There is a likely chance this guy was wreck waiting to happen. As Morgan Freeman suggests, in his mind this was the way of going out and causing as much damage as possible because his own life was probably so damaged (in his mind)...who knows, its all speculation but I am going to Mr Freeman's advice.

posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 11:59 AM
An interesting link:

List of school shootings known to be linked to SSRI:

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