Originally posted by PrplHrt
reply to post by iwilliam
Initially, I want going to respond to your last comment, but now I am. YOU opened that door, not me. YOU.
Black, white, whatever. I've seen the behavior in all racial groups, but it predominates in white and black youth. White youth are negatively
influenced by black music.
Consistently excelling academically are the Asians. There is a definite difference in their early lives which is reflected in their school years
behavior. They are DISCIPLINED.
Are you happy you opened the door? Shall we dance?
Well, if I open the door for you, and dance, just don't expect anything by the end of the date.
And sure, i love to dance. But be forewarned I
prefer that my partners not only keep pace, but step true
. And yes, i brought the quesiton up, though I did so because I felt like it was
implied in your previous comment.
I think to say it "predominates" in white and black youth is an untrue generalization. Perhaps in your experience. The largest city in my area, in
which I used to live, had more latino gang members than black or white ones. Some asians, too. But that's nearly irrelevant to my point.
I think your saying that "White youth are negatively influenced by black music," is an even more unfair generalization. Had you said "gangster
rap" instead of "black music" I would not entirely disagree with you. "Black music" is a very broad, generalized idea that includes many genres
of music, of which gangster rap, or rap as a whole, is only a small part of. There is lots of black music that I don't feel to be detrimental to
society. I will, however, concede that the line between what was once called "gangster rap" and other genres of "black music" is sometimes blurred
more than it used to be.
I agree that the violent, narcissistic, disrespectful, egoistic message of a lot of modern popular music is damaging to society to one degree or
another. However, what you're seeing in that video (and the other stuff I imagine
you're thinking of) are not solely the effects of black
culture. They are the effects of socioeconomic suppression and what I believe amounts to a subtle cultural warfare.
Ask yourself, who is it that owns the companies which produce and distribute vile gangster music? Are these companies owned by black men? In almost
all cases, the answer to this question is "no."
Furthermore, it is not only "white youth" who is affected by this vile music.
Why do you mention "white" youth, and not just "youth?" Do you not care if young blacks are affected negatively by the messages in this
I think the corruption of white kids by this stuff, while unfortunate, is an ironic and almost amusing consequence, as I believe this
music was originally intended to help perpetuate not only a certain image of minorities, but also perpetuate a destructive cycle occurring in our
nation's ghettos. (While lining the pockets of the companies' white owners) But now the white children have seen the poisoned candy, and they've
begun to eat it too...
When I hear the complaints of racist people regarding blacks, most of the things they're complaining about are the direct effects of lack of money,
lack of education, and lack of opportunity on a culture-- not a direct cultural byproduct. The "black" culture of the inner city we see in this
country did not originate in africa. It originated in the poorest and most-difficult to live, most under-educated areas of our nation. There are
innumerable black people who don't act like thugs, or under-educated fools. And they are this way because they either had better environment /
opportunity, or they were somehow lucky / gifted / enough to overcome ghetto culture while living in its midst.
Regarding asians, this is a result of their differing education system. They don't skimp on paying for their kids' schooling. They don't cut the
funding from certain school systems (coincidentally in areas where predominantly minorities live) and make certain groups suffer. That's why
they're ahead in these regards. Further, there is an important cultural distinction. It is a mark of pride to be intelligent over there. Over here if
you like to read more than watch television you're considered a "weirdo" or a "nerd."
You see a really hot blond woman. Really attractive, like a model. How intelligent do you think she is? Why do you feel that way? How about a football
player? How smart is he? Which is cooler, a football player, or a physicist? Which profession is rewarded with more $ ?
We have been poisoning our own well. And that has nothing to do with race. It's almost understandable how some could think it is, given that it seems
it's been orchestrated to look that way. But dig deeply enough into the issue, and you will see that race is only a small piece of a big and complex