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posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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I know there are many that see events take place such as these, and ask:
"Where is God in this?"
"There can't be a God, when these types of things happen!"

But, Father surely was at work when the event took place as of today. You see the end result, of the many children dead and a few adults. But, if you saw what happened before Father stepped in, it was much, much worse.

Everyone on this Earth will have to go through death, but man puts the weight on the way out. Man would rather see others die a peaceful death after living a long life. This is what everyone has come to expect. But, there are many other variables at place here.

Many think young ones (children), don't have much say what happens in their life, but they surely do. Many times, Father comes to the young ones and ask them do they want to continue down here, or what events they want to experience while they are here.

Many who have not came as of yet (not born), do not understand the pain, the struggles, the tears, etc. that many go through while being here, and ask, I wonder how that is. So some are sent to experience those things while they are here, because they genuinely wanted to know and Father granted.

Yes, the parents of the young ones will not understand and be upset, but Father is always there to comfort.

Above surely knew of the events were going to take place before it happened, and came down to prepare and be with all whom were affected. Father does not sleep, Father does not sit back and not care, he is surely there all the time to be with all.




posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 09:14 PM
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Father does not sleep, Father does not sit back.....


Father does not exist. That is how you should have finished that sentence.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 09:17 PM
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You probably should have provided substantiation for this stuff.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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You probably should have provided substantiation for this stuff.


Man is not privy to see of the rewinds that Father has put into place.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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Are you trying to be obscure here? Because it's working.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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Are you trying to be obscure here? Because it's working.


As the order stands now, there is no way for me to bring down the resources of above to show you what took place in the unseen. The only way this can be done, is to bring you above, like Abraham, Enoch, Paul, John, etc. were brought above.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 10:49 PM
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Now i like dancing around touchy subjects... but you just steam rollled this one...

Good thread though...

I agree with you




posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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Ah, my brothers. I wish you could see how real the compassion of the Lord is. I wish you could see how his heart aches for the pain that we all endure. Sometimes his purpose mystifies me, and sometimes his methods mystify me even more, but I have seen too much of his work to not have trust that he knows what he is doing. I wish more could see. But even if you can't, that doesn't change the compassion he feels nor the compassion I feel.

You should all listen carefully to the message our Father has given us and be wary of the reality of his words. The words given to us by jhill76 are the words of your maker and He is trying to show you the light in this seemingly dark reality. Do not blind yourself to it. Embrace and accept the grace of our Lord, and you will not fear darkness.
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posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 03:28 AM
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I know what Im going to say is going to get me banned from ATS but your god can go # himself, lets see he can make a 14 year old girl pregnant ( Mary) but cannot save childern, guess we know what god prefares... I am angry and disgusted with people defending a none exsistent god, and saying stupid thing like, " dont be sad there with the angels now" the only comfort to the parents of this tragedy would be a slow painful death to the preson/persons involved.... ok ATS ban me or delet my post I said what I had to



posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 03:41 AM
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Oh, man. You're so angry at God it's actually funny. A little sad, but... Deny it all you want, you're only fooling yourself.



posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 08:07 AM
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lets see he can make a 14 year old girl pregnant ( Mary) but cannot save childern


You are assigning human qualities to him. You want him to save children in your way. The ones that left and went back, they are still alive indeed, death is just the shedding of the garments, or the human body.

The problem lies in that too many come here (Earth), and get too attached to it, and never learn. This is why above has to continually step in, re-do more cycles, and shake their head continually.



I know what Im going to say is going to get me banned from ATS but your god can go # himself


Below speaks to Father much, much worse, there is nothing you can say, that will cause any emotion from I.
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posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 08:51 AM
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As the order stands now, there is no way for me to bring down the resources of above to show you what took place in the unseen. The only way this can be done, is to bring you above, like Abraham, Enoch, Paul, John, etc. were brought above.


You are just full of crappy answers, aren't you?



posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 09:12 AM
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You are just full of crappy answers, aren't you?


You only seem to want a set of answers that fit your view as I see.

I will not respond anymore, as I will not give into the back and forth.
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posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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You only seem to want a set of answers that fit your view as I see.

I will not respond anymore, as I will not give into the back and forth.


No, I want an actual answer, not an effing riddle. I'm tired of you people being all cryptic, making it sound like you're saying something when you're saying nothing at all. I can pretend to know stuff too, you know!



posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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Oh, man. You're so angry at God it's actually funny. A little sad, but... Deny it all you want, you're only fooling yourself.


Why shouldn't we be? He's responsible for everything good and everything bad. He should come down here and clean up the mess he made.



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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Oh, man. You're so angry at God it's actually funny. A little sad, but... Deny it all you want, you're only fooling yourself.


Why shouldn't we be? He's responsible for everything good and everything bad. He should come down here and clean up the mess he made.


Oh, trust me. He will.

If you admit he's responsible for everything good and everything bad, you must also admit he is responsible for you and everything you are. Nothing you can say to him will come as a surprise and everything you think, he already knows. Try testing that if you don't believe me. He truly has thought of everything.

Now, if you want to know how I know this? The answer, as I've said before, is that I don't know anything for sure. And neither do you, so stop trying to convince people who think they have an answer that their answer is wrong simply because you don't agree with the methods used by our Lord.



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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Jhill, I believe what you are saying. I know from reading and hearing about the many, many near death experiences that people have had and survived that God sends an angel or someone to help those people get through their difficult situations. He cares enough to comfort them and help them through it. And we know about these events because the people involved were able to tell us about what happened to them.

But when someone dies, such as these children, they aren't able to tell us of how they were helped. It doesn't mean that they weren't helped! We just don't get to hear about it, so many of us assume that God didn't care, that he just turned his head away.

I believe that you, Jhill, are trying to comfort those who are so understandably upset by this horrible event, but it can be hard for us to see it in the way you are trying explain. But thank you for making such an effort, I have noticed that a lot of people on ATS do believe what you say, I joined ATS myself mostly because of your posts and threads which I have found to be very comforting. Please keep up your good work!



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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But when someone dies, such as these children, they aren't able to tell us of how they were helped. It doesn't mean that they weren't helped! We just don't get to hear about it, so many of us assume that God didn't care, that he just turned his head away.


I can say that Father ordered the arks and elders to come down and escort them straight to above, because of the way they were taken out of this world. Most do not get to go above right away, but they were allowed.

Father also came down and took care of this situation personally, but since most cannot see himself physically they assume as you say that he is just sitting back and not taking care of things.



I joined ATS myself mostly because of your posts and threads which I have found to be very comforting.


Your Faith has been noted.



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 01:48 PM
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We accept that we don't know why god won't feed the starving children around the world. We accept that we don't know why god won't stop silly wars. We accept that we don't know why god won't stop rape and disease and natural disasters.

And now we don't know why this all-knowing, all-powerful god allowed the deaths of 20 babies.

Tell you what, I don't want to know this piece of crap god of yours.

I swear, I thank my lucky stars that this lunatic entity doesn't exist, because if he did I would try to kill him.



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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Jhill I'm wondering this; are you saying that the school shooting mostly happened because Father allowed the souls/spirits of the children to choose to come down and see what this sort of pain is like? Even though if they were shot, surely there wasnt much pain in the few seconds it took them to die. All were shot multiple times so death should have come quickly. Could you try to explain just a tiny bit more even if it is complex? Thank you if you are able to do this.





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