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Originally posted by Spacespider
I can't argue with you there.
But on the gun control issue alone they have agreed to allow reasonable regulations.
I think it's a shame that so many people jump on the band wagon after these
What about all the hundreds of homeless kids that die from starvation each year?
What about thousands of innocent kids killed by bombing other countries?
What about the hundreds of kids shot in the ghetto?
Where is the outrage for all of those tragedies?
Only when a bunch of rich white kids are killed and it's plastered all over the media.
That's when all these squawkers start popping out of the wood works shouting bloody murder.
Originally posted by FoosM
Originally posted by Spacespider
Does that include police killings?
Originally posted by Jeremiah65
reply to post by Spacespider
Interesting picture ya got there. What is the relationship to each countries population? There are 330 million here...how many In Finland? Germany?
Your attempt to paint a picture is fail. Fatal crime in the ratio of population is the indicator...not just raw numbers...nice try.
Originally posted by Plotus
A friend of mine wrote and posted this on facebook...
"To all the people that stress "time out" and "spanking is no good", I hold you personally responsible for the murder of those innocent children today. Sleep well, knowing all the lives that were lost today, is your fault."
Originally posted by spangledbanner
Arent the people that own guns for protection the ones living in fear?
Any country in Europe or UK has lower gun crime than America. Lower deaths from guns. Way lower. People in Europe and the UK are not so very afraid of criminals I guess.
Do American's really think they can overthrow a government that has the largest military in the world? Thats stupid.
Isnt the American Government already tyrannical?
Originally posted by Logman
Only Americans feel the need to own lots of guns. It's because your society is broken. Whether it's society or guns, YOU have a big problem. These mass shootings happen in other countries once decade (if that). In American it's every 3-4 months.
But sure, keep advocating for gun freedoms, keep living in a violent, broken society where you are free.....to die at the hands of a gunman.
Originally posted by MagicWand67
They really seem like a bunch of hypocrites. Blinded by their emotions and looking for a scapegoat to vent their frustrations, which are based on fear, and the false perception that more gun control would solve the problem of angry or psychotic people from carrying out their acts of violence against innocent civilians.
55 million in england/wales, 39 kills. USA has about 6 times more people so if they were killing the same number per capita it would be approx 240, but its 9,484. The numbers clearly speak for themselves. It would seem that humans want to kill way more than their available weaponry allows. Give them more and better weapons and they kill a lot more people. The average family doesn't need the means to kill multiple people easily at the flick of a switch. The idea is alien, am I really on the same planet where this is considered a sensible requirement for daily living? Maybe it would be prudent to reconsider this "right" as a necessity or a wise thing.
Originally posted by Jeremiah65
reply to post by Spacespider
Interesting picture ya got there. What is the relationship to each countries population? There are 330 million here...how many In Finland? Germany?
Your attempt to paint a picture is fail. Fatal crime in the ratio of population is the indicator...not just raw numbers...nice try.
Originally posted by votan
reply to post by MagicWand67
Banning guns does not change that behavior. The problem will still exist.
Banning guns will not solve that problem, looking at society and changing our ways will.
all the garbage they see and read as they grow up warp them into the killers you see shooting up your schools today
so we ban guns and not address the actual problem.
we are like fat people who would rather ban certain kinds of foods instead of just changing your eating habits and showing some self control.
edit on 15-12-2012 by votan because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by votan
They show that there is a problem in society. Banning guns does not change that behavior. The problem will still exist.
Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by milominderbinder
What is the break down by race?
Just wondering.......