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Originally posted by exponent
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by exponent
yah or at least a society whose spirit of freedom and liberty is already broken and which has more surveillance cameras per capita than anywhere else. All in how you look at it I guess.edit on 15-12-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Even if you cite the flawed study that claimed this. It also noted that the vast majority were private cameras. Do you even know what you're talking about?
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
How would you know it was a flawed study wihtout even knowing what it was and who did the study? Talk about a knee jerk reaction.
No matter what study it was you won't accept the premise of my statement which is that the spirit of independence and Liberty in the UK is already broken by a combination of gun control and video surveillance.
I think we should try to celebrate hte life of some of the heroes in the stories coming out from the school.
My point is that you can't just dismiss these factors as they are important and matter.
Originally posted by kneverr
reply to post by exponent
UK has zero business demanding Americans to do anything with our firearms.... you tried it once before, it didn't go too well for you.
BTW Exponent, you conveniently forgot to leave out a very important little piece of information with your so called facts on murder/gun crimes; the US has est 330 million people, compared to the UK's 63 million. Helps put things in a much better perspective, doesn't it.
Originally posted by MagicWand67
reply to post by exponent
My point is that you can't prevent crazy people from doing senseless acts of violence if they are committed to carrying them out. No matter how many laws are passed.
Lets suppose this guy was prevented from using his mothers weapons and instead he decided to make a suicide bomb.
Maybe instead of 20 children dead we'd have 40 or 50 maybe 100 dead.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by exponent
I don't WANT to visit Cuba, do you? They recently had a shortage of TOILET PAPER. The clinics for visitors is better than the ones the nationals end up in.
So the nanny cams in private homes is discredited? I've heard that before but I don't recall any proof.
Originally posted by esdad71
reply to post by exponent
My comment about muslims was not racist and I would think better of you to imply that. The IRA was the issue with protest and terror and know it is muslims that protest with some terror. Here is a simple find of a link. YOU said they were scary not me . I See watch you tried.
Over 20 killed in China with a knife this week. Yes, it happens.
Which is why you restrict access to explosives exactly as you should to guns. You're not really helping your point here.
Oklahoma blast claimed 168 lives, including 19 children under the age of 6,[1] and injured more than 680 people.[2] The blast destroyed or damaged 324 buildings within a sixteen-block radius, destroyed or burned 86 cars, and shattered glass in 258 nearby buildings.[3][4] The bomb was estimated to have caused at least $652 million worth of damage
McVeigh and Nichols purchased or stole the materials they needed to manufacture the bomb, which they stored in rented sheds. In August 1994, McVeigh obtained nine Kinestiks from gun collector Roger E. Moore, and ignited the devices with Nichols outside Nichols' home in Herington, Kansas.[34][35] On September 30, 1994, Nichols bought forty 50-pound (23 kg) bags of ammonium nitrate from Mid-Kansas Coop in McPherson, Kansas, an amount regarded as unusual even for a farmer. Nichols bought an additional 50-pound (23 kg) bag on October 18,
Originally posted by exponent
Which is why you restrict access to explosives exactly as you should to guns. You're not really helping your point here.
Originally posted by exponent
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by exponent
I don't WANT to visit Cuba, do you? They recently had a shortage of TOILET PAPER. The clinics for visitors is better than the ones the nationals end up in.
So you don't care that you can't even travel to another country without your government poking its nose in? So much for freedom and liberty eh?
So the nanny cams in private homes is discredited? I've heard that before but I don't recall any proof.
Nanny cams in private homes exist where otherwise the person would have their children taken away for being unfit parents. Which sounds the better solution to you?
More than 200 schools across Britain are using CCTV cameras in pupils' toilets or changing rooms, according to figures obtained by anti-surveillance campaigners, who warned that the research raised serious questions about the privacy of schoolchildren.
Originally posted by MagicWand67
reply to post by exponent
Apparently you're not familiar with home made explosives.
They can be made with household chemicals that are readily available every where,
The Oklahoma City bomb was a van full of fertilizer.