posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 11:46 PM
Originally posted by minnow
Guess there's inst any most violent *country* on Earth, in the history of civilization, afterall?
(Cuz nobody proposed an answer)
As a matter of national policy, probably the Mongolian Empire was the most effectively and consistently violent, as they used near total-genocide as a
usual strategy. I don't know enough to know what their personal ideology or emotional makeup was. Did they just do this because they didn't care
and wanted to win, or did they do this because they could and they hated people who were different?
When you want to talk about "most violent" nation, I believe it means you must have a national power and will whose ideology is concentrated on
violence, and you compare the amount of violence inflicted vs the opportunity to inflict such violence, and the lack of remorse and maybe even the
pleasure in extermination. It's not just numbers---violence in mobs and civil wars though brutal is not the quite the same as directed extermination.
On this, it is very difficult for me to consider anything in the last 400 years which tops the German and Japanese fascism. Perhaps in ideology and
pure viciousness Imperial Japan might have even been worse to its victims--or at least they practiced this hate for longer.
Leninist-Stalinist Communism is nearly as callously murderous and equal in its wicked achievements---but it is murderous out of a different
motivation---fear, not ego. They murder or starve anybody who might be considered a threat, no matter how paranoid, insane, or remote the
justification. But it did have some universalist ideology---bringing Communism to the worldwide masses was considered a virtue (and screw those who
didn't care to drink the koolaid)---they didn't mass murder people because they were unworthy of deserving Communism, the way fascists viewed their
opponents and victims as less than human and not even deserving the consideration of an animal.
Typical stone-age tribes find 30-40% of males dying from violence and not natural causes. This isn't any one burst but just an accumulation of humans
in the primitive state---and this pattern probably has been the case for hundreds of 'nations'/'countries'/'civilizations'.
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