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reply posted on 14-12-2012 @ 03:55 PM by GrantedBail
reply to post by xszawe


Right off the top of my head I remember back in the day, like say 2003-2005, forced vaccination and quarantine legislation being passed while the masses were diverted by WMD. There have been several times actually to the point that I have expected it. I am sure other members can chime in. I have a problem with short term memory from a head injury now.


reply posted on 14-12-2012 @ 04:01 PM by sirric
Yes, keep an eye out for real passage of laws under the radar.

As to the soon to be Ban all gun crowd

Nothing much as it is too soon but it is getting Lefty looney on Twitter...

Ross McCall ‏(@maccageezer) wrote, "Senseless. The 2nd Amendment is NOT what it was originally set up to be. HAS to be more gun control."
Daniel Stewart ‏@dnstewart67 tweeted, "Any American who would prefer to see this on their TV rather than lose the 2nd amendment have no humanity. Sheer horror."
Comedian Sarah Silverman (@SarahKSilverman) wrote, "Band-Aids-on-Band-Aids @NRA people want MORE access to guns to combat all the people w access to guns."
Filmmaker Michael Moore (@MMFlint), who made a documentary about the Columbine school shooting, "Bowling for Columbine," tweeted,‏ "Too soon to speak out about a gun-crazy nation? No, too late. At least THIRTY-ONE school shootings since Columbine."
Assif Manvi (@aasif) of "The Daily Show," posted, "The #NRA politicians will now tell us that this tragedy could have been prevented if children carried guns! #WAKEUPAMERICA."


Others are chomping at the bit:

Public figures immediately jumped in to offer condolences, while others called for new restrictions. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said he was "shocked and saddened" by the tragic shooting. He said society should "unify" to "crack down on the guns."

Mark Kelly, husband of former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who was gravely injured by a gunman in Tucson in 2011, wrote on Facebook: "The children of Sandy Hook Elementary School and all victims of gun violence deserve leaders who have the courage to participate in a meaningful discussion about our gun laws—and how they can be reformed and better enforced to prevent gun violence and death in America."


"As a country, we have been through this too many times," Obama said. "We're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics."


"If now is not the time to have a serious discussion about gun control and the epidemic of gun violence plaguing our society, I don't know when is," Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. said in a statement.


It will be a rally call for Obama to set in motion his desire to ban guns.... Mark my words, this is the catalyst to the next chapter of constitutional erosion by our trusted overlords, um err, I meant Elected Leaders
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reply posted on 14-12-2012 @ 04:12 PM by Taupin Desciple
Originally posted by GrantedBail
I can't help but notice the complete saturation of the internet with this story.

I do believe that we are distracted from time to time with sensational news stories that drown out other important events, like legislation, to be exact.


So legal issues are more important to you then 28 dead children?

I feel sorry for you.

You want saturation? I'll give you saturation, and it's not only going to be this site either. These sorts of things need to stop and people like you don't help matters any. You just get in the way with all your paper pushing.

Originally posted by crkking
This day will always be remembered because of the actions of a coward. How many people will be remembered because of the actions of heroes.


I woke up with Wolf Blitzer talking about this on CNN. Made me sick. Not a good way to wake up. 5 minutes of that is all one needs to get the point so I changed the channel.

People need to start being more pro-active with these sorts of things and finding a solution to this sort of problem. Children are the most important resource we have. We need to keep them protected and educated at all times. I see a day coming when public schools are a thing of the past and school districts start taking measures to teach their curriculum to students in the safety of their own homes. A cross between home schooling and public education. If a district doesn't have the finances to provide computers to students, the vast majority of which own computers anyway, they can always set up a "host house" where a certain number of students can go and share the resources. Get the teachers to be "host parents", or something similar, so you know there's someone qualified to oversee everything. One of the main advantages to this is that everything would be on private property. Someone's house. City councils may have to create a brand new zone for these types of set-ups, somewhere between business and private, to where the legalities on that end are taken care of, but that would be a small price to pay IMO.

People might say "Well what happened today was an exception to the rule. No need to go to extremes" I don't care if it's an exception to the rule or not. 28 children victims are 28 too many. Or my favorite argument: " Don't let emotions rule your decisions" Sorry, but if you don't feel emotions about something like THIS then you're dead inside. People need to stop talking about what went wrong and start talking about what we can do to keep this from happening again. Something realistic that can implemented without too many rules and regulations getting involved.

Those sorts of things tend to bog things down anyway.




reply posted on 14-12-2012 @ 04:25 PM by GrantedBail
reply to post by Taupin Desciple


Whoa! Step away from the rage. We can have more than one conversation, can we not. I didn't shoot anyone and I am disgusted at the violence towards innocent children. Your accusations are unwarranted.


reply posted on 14-12-2012 @ 06:39 PM by Taupin Desciple
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I guess I probably feel the way I do because I don't see certain laws as applying to me. Laws in general really, but in this case we're talking about the 2nd amendment. Doesn't apply here because I don't own a gun. The people he was referring to also don't apply to me because I don't get easily distracted. Ask anyone I work with. People can pass all the legislation they want. I don't really care about it because it isn't going to stop me from doing what I do, and please don't ask me to start caring about other peoples' rights. I haven't done so yet and I don't plan on starting now. The only thing I care about in this regard is not intentionally hurting other people. Anything else is simply a distraction from that main point.

I see law after law after law as being negative because laws are for people who NEED them. I don't need them because I know how to do the right thing. I know how to govern myself and keep the negatives in check. I know how not to hurt people. It's pretty easy really. It involves not doing anything negative and to be perfectly honest with you I feel sorry for the people who DO need laws.

I also feel for the people who are negatively affected by all these laws that infringe upon what THEY see a right. Namely, the right to bear arms. And before you start talking about the constitution, spare me. It's antiquated and irrelevant. If the Government wanted to keep a heavy thumb over the population it isn't going to be with the military or the police, so militia's as a defense are a moot point. This isn't 1776. They would do it with more subversive tactics that come with the digital age territory.

So while you're hemming and hawing about the 2nd amendment, while you're concerned about what their right hand is doing, they're picking your pocket with their left hand. And you're warning ME about that? Please. Bottom line.....keep it simple by not concerning yourself at all with what the Government is doing because they're a bunch of nitwits anyway who don't have anything to do with what the common man is supposed to be doing...........helping themselves because Washington is out of touch.

And no, I don't bury my head in the sand by telling myself that laws for the common man don't apply to me. I'm keeping my life stress free, trouble free and crime free. I know full well what this world is about, and if I don't want to be a part of the negatives, guess what? I'm not going to be, and if that makes me delusional and out of touch.....oh well. In the meantime I'm going to take my way of life and continue to be productive and peaceful.

If you want to worry about other people who don't know how to do that, be my guest. I'm not going to waste my time on people I consider to be beneath me. Life's too short.


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reply posted on 20-12-2012 @ 02:59 PM by eyesis
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Talk about watching the left hand ...here is something to ponder.I have researched this thru the Internet google search and this is the weirdest connection between three fathers.

Lannza's dad is a forensic accountant due to testify before the Senate on the LIBOR scandal

Holme's dad was also scheduled to testify before the Senate about GE paying 0 taxes on 14.2 billion in profits and the LIBOR scandal

Kevin Krim the dad of the two children killed by the nanny in NY was the MSNBC executive who broke the scandal story on LIBOR the day before his children died and was also scheduled to testify before the Senate about LIBOR

LIBOR is a 43.2 trillion banking scandal . It has to do with how much interest banks charge each other when borrowing money. I ask you this question...Where is a man most vulnerable but through his children?

So while everybody is screaming gun control and medicating the autistic and getting busy screaming for more laws, shouldn't we be considering that something else far deeper and maybe a lot more dangerous is going on here.

Our forefathers always told us this one thing...disarm a nation and genocide begins.

Also, look for anything about a man in fatigues behind Sandy Hook, think about a bug in the ear, (hearing voices anyone) I'll bet you can't find another report about the Mystery Man behind the school. That's gone . I'll bet that not another soul will put this together for you but google all three dads and you will see.
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