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Originally posted by Alfie1
Originally posted by Krakatoa
Y'now, through all this back-and-forth, "ban guns", "we need them to defend against a corrupt government", etc.. nobody is stating one of the clear defensive reasons for have a firearm for personal protection (even a multi-shot semi-auto)......protection during a crisis. Yes, remember back to Hurricane Katrina? After the devastation, there were roaming gangs of thugs, looting and do other nefarious acts of violence wielding illegal weapons to intimidate and harm others. THIS is one of the most likely cases for self-protection, since natural (or man-made) disasters break down the thin line between civilization and anarchy. Sad, but all too true.
I would bet that if Britain was faced with a major natural disaster, their population would revert back to this mentality just the same. If it ever does happen, can I sit here and say, you should have fought for your right to own a weapon to protect yourself from those roving gangs.....huh?
Oh, and Brits, that weapons ban really helped fight the IRA and subway bombers didn't it? Killer will kill with whatever is available at their disposal. Until such a time as human nature changes to grow beyond that behavior, out of our adolescence as a species, personal protection will be needed. Wishing for things never works....praying for things never works, DOING things does work.
Didn't happen during the London blitz when 28,556 Londoners were killed and 1,000,000 homes destroyed.
In case you missed it the IRA have now rejected violence and decommisioned their weapons.
The London tube bombers were not stopped by guns, agreed, but neither were your 9/11 lot despite all your guns.
"grow a set", you mean like the UK did when they gave up there guns like sheep.
Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
So here I am sitting watching the news, I see a young boy talking about how he “saw and heard” the bullets of a gun man. The headline below this innocent child’s face reads “27 people killed in Connecticut shooting, 18 children”.
I am not to beat about the bush hear but as a British guy looking in on this I am shocked, there have been more of these type of mass shootings this year than I can count. Every month I am seeing some state governor passing on his heartfelt condolences to the families of the dead.
How about this instead America rather than having your leaders “apologise” to all the dead families how about you do this? Get out of the Wild West and the 18th century and BAN THE GUN!!! You are not cowboys anymore, you are not John Rambo the British are not about to invade you.
For the “guns don’t kill people, people do”, stop hiding behind an old cliché, if you lot bothered with proper gun control I would not be watching this disturbing story.
To be clear, I am not saying ban all guns or ban the gun overnight, what I am saying is that you lot need to grow up and some proper gun regulation. You need gun reform, it’s very simple, none of you gun enthusiasts needs 40 guns with 1200 rounds of ammunition.
Stop hiding behind that ancient bit of paper, your constitution, you all need to grow a set and sort out your gun problem before you have anoter 18 dead kids, who knows next time it could be one of yours, I pray it is not and i pray for the families of those affected
Originally posted by Alfie1
Crime rates are falling in the UK :-
Originally posted by shauny
I am just thankful I live in the East Coast of Scotland, we had 2 shootings I can remember in the last 10 year or so. And nobody died.
I get why the Gun males people "feel" safe.
Knowing nobody has Guns where I am makes me feel safe.
Because I know it is not an issue we have to deal with.
Originally posted by Flow101
I would start with banning assault rifles and other powerful guns, there's NO reason to have these type of guns available to the public.