reply to post by TheBorg
Not allowing guns in the hands of teachers, in this case, cost 20 students their lives.
So you have 2 scenarios here, the teachers keep it locked up for safety, how would that have helped?
Or they carry it with them at all times, how long till theres an accident or a disgruntled student gets their hands on it?
If you want there to be a law that prohibits all guns in all citizens hands, then you'll need to have every home and every institution outfitted with
a law enforcement officer to amply protect the people. Based on this logical line of thinking, I assume that you're a proponent of Big Government, am
Other countries do just fine without cops everywhere and without everyone being armed, I think the reason your in the mess you are is precisely
because so many of you are armed!!
And no I am not a proponent of Big Gov, Im a proponent of no weapons of death for citizens
So what would you have people do in the event that a violent crime is committed? Call the police, and pray to whatever God they believe in, hoping
that He won't take their lives today? Self defense will have been removed from the equation when guns are removed from the citizens.
So why do Poms and Aussies feel safe without guns? why do we not have mass shootings every few weeks?
That's exactly what I am saying. More people SHOULD carry firearms. I have already asked you a similar question: Where were the police while this was
going on? No where to be found. They didn't even fire a shot, as the crime had already been committed, and the shooter had already committed suicide.
So much for police being able to defend the people!!
True they cant be everywhere at once but are you really suggesting teachers should be in class teaching with a fully loaded weapon on their hip?
Can you not see how that is absolutely sick
Why is America so different to countries that are culturally similar?
If you even breathed a suggestion of this in Oz or the UK you would be considered as psycho as the shooters themsleves
Fair point. But how many of these would be prevented if more people carried? It's all part of the mindset that in this country, there's no
accountability for anything because no one can stop you. If the teachers had all had firearms available to them, it may have given this individual a
second thought about going through with it.
Can you seriously not see this is a catch 22 situation? more guns in circulation means more and easier access to guns for the psychos so then you need
even more people carrying and the cycle goes on and on and gets worse and worse
Typically, we use it to kill animals for food.
Traditionally or ideally I would have accepted but typically?
How many of the 100 Million plus US gun owners hunt for food with their gun?
MY sole reason for being a gun owner is to protect myself from someone trying to take my life before the police can get here to save me. Would you
have me lie down and die when a criminal who disregards the law shows up with the intention of killing me?
The sole reason this is a concern of yours is because there are so many guns in circulation in your country.
The vast majority of westen civilisation outside of the US does not have this concern
This however makes me neither crazy or irrational. It makes me responsible.
No it makes you scared, fearful and easy to control. " a fearful populace is a controlled populace"
As long as I have my gun Im safe, sure take my jobs, poison my food, spy on me at will but just leave my gun alone coz it makes me feel warm and fuzzy
and the bad people wont get me
I have to have the right to self defense. By your own admission, you would have that right rescinded. I'm sorry, but I will NOT subscribe to that
line of thinking. That's both self-defeatest and irrational, by definition.
I dont need a gun for self defence, the fact you feel you do is just wrong. I would hate to live with that kind of fear in my life but somehow for you
guys its just normal and almost comes across like you all find it preferable
Yes. However, there are laws in place to prevent mentally unstable people from accessing them.
Accessing them legally you mean. Whats to stop psychos breaking into homes and stealing the guns of "rational" people?
The reality of our world is that we cannot be safe when we rely on others for our own protection. To do so is to sign our own death certificate.
So according to your logic all the rest of us without guns are on borrowed time till some bogey man comes to our house and kills us while we cower
unprotected in bed. I dont think so.