It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Why should we study the Bible?

page: 3
2
<< 1  2   >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 07:10 AM
link   

Originally posted by windword
 


A more accurate translation, I believe is in the King James Bible.

Luke 6:40
The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.


Paul said:

Even though you have ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. 1 Corinthians 4:15

Jesus said:

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

What gospel is Paul referring to, except the one he made up for himself?



edit on 16-12-2012 by windword because: (no reason given)


there are three distinct Gospels in the New Testament. Each one for a certain time. One for the time from John the baptist to the stoning of Stephen, one from the conversion of Paul to the Gathering of the saints into the clouds and one for the Great Tribulation.

But you don't believe the Bible nor on Christ Jesus for salvation, so you don't study the Bible with the help of the holy ghost and everything in the Bible is foolishness to you.

1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

This is Paul's Testimony of how he got his gospel which is referred to in the scriptures as the gospel of Christ, the gospel of grace
Ga 1:10 ¶ For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.

BTW, one of the verses above is not a KJV verse you say is a more accurate version.



edit on 17-12-2012 by ChesterJohn because: (no reason given)




posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 09:13 AM
link   
reply to post by ConspiracyNutjob
 




Only the Spirit of God can reveal these things to you, the flesh cannot fathom the mysteries of God. It is impossible to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour apart from the Spirit.


I never said differently. But, it appears to me that you value the words of Paul above those of Jesus, when they are in conflict. Correct me if I'm wrong.



Originally posted by ChesterJohn
 



there are three distinct Gospels in the New Testament. Each one for a certain time. One for the time from John the baptist to the stoning of Stephen, one from the conversion of Paul to the Gathering of the saints into the clouds and one for the Great Tribulation.


I find it amazing that the life and teachings Jesus is not named anywhere in your 3 way, trinity like split of the New Testament!


But you don't believe the Bible nor on Christ Jesus for salvation, so you don't study the Bible with the help of the holy ghost and everything in the Bible is foolishness to you.


It seems to me that you believe everything in the Bible except the words, teachings and warnings of Jesus, while he was still alive, in favor of another teacher, who appeals to your chosen mentality.


1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

This is Paul's Testimony of how he got his gospel which is referred to in the scriptures as the gospel of Christ, the gospel of grace
Ga 1:10 ¶ For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.

BTW, one of the verses above is not a KJV verse you say is a more accurate version.


I have found that the King Version is more accurate when quoting Jesus. I couldn't care any less how it translated the words of Paul.

I can't understand why you guys keep quoting Paul to me, after I have made it clear that I reject his words and everything he stands for. He's a liar.



John 8:44-4544
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.


Notice here, how Jesus simply says "I tell you the truth" instead of the convoluted, commandment breaking "Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not." like Paul has to.



John 14:15-21
15 “If you love me, keep my commands.
16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—
17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live.
20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.
21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”





edit on 17-12-2012 by windword because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 05:18 PM
link   
reply to post by theophilus40
 

Second Timothy 3:16 gives us four reasons.

2 Timothy is one of the least likely books in the New Testament, traditionally ascribed to Paul, to have actually been written by Paul, according to biblical scholars.
So this one verse is used overly much in a lot of people's opinion.
There is a reason to read the Old Testament but one of those reasons is not to actually try to follow it. We should read the OT to see where some of the language in the NT comes from but not for any other reason, in my opinion.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 08:32 PM
link   
Yes christians should read their bibles. There's a wealth of information to learn, and also mistakes to be learned from as well. The book is filled with allegory that is important in our walk with Christ. This is why we should study the bible.



new topics

top topics
 
2
<< 1  2   >>

log in

join