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Originally posted by windword
A more accurate translation, I believe is in the King James Bible.
The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
Even though you have ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. 1 Corinthians 4:15
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
What gospel is Paul referring to, except the one he made up for himself?
edit on 16-12-2012 by windword because: (no reason given)
Only the Spirit of God can reveal these things to you, the flesh cannot fathom the mysteries of God. It is impossible to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour apart from the Spirit.
Originally posted by ChesterJohn
there are three distinct Gospels in the New Testament. Each one for a certain time. One for the time from John the baptist to the stoning of Stephen, one from the conversion of Paul to the Gathering of the saints into the clouds and one for the Great Tribulation.
But you don't believe the Bible nor on Christ Jesus for salvation, so you don't study the Bible with the help of the holy ghost and everything in the Bible is foolishness to you.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
This is Paul's Testimony of how he got his gospel which is referred to in the scriptures as the gospel of Christ, the gospel of grace
Ga 1:10 ¶ For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.
BTW, one of the verses above is not a KJV verse you say is a more accurate version.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
15 “If you love me, keep my commands.
16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—
17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live.
20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.
21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
Second Timothy 3:16 gives us four reasons.