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Originally posted by snarky412
Originally posted by PaperbackWriter
Originally posted by Manhater
Can someone post a recap fact check of events leading to and up to and the aftermath of this event. I really don't want to tread through60 pages.
I'm reading so many theories and it's hard to believe. Really mainly about the shooter. And who is HE. Was it a lone ranger or multiple shooters?
I heard he shot the principal first then the psychologist. Did he go to this school? Was he already out of this school? At some point he had to go the school and must of had bad vibes or got in trouble a lot to go after the principal and psychologist first.
Was his mother down the hall like they said?
If so, why didn't he go there first?
When I left, this thread was only at 4 pages, I come home and it's over 60 pages.
I need an executive summary.
Pretty please.edit on 14-12-2012 by Manhater because: (no reason given)edit on 14-12-2012 by Manhater because: (no reason given)
I could attempt to respond but the story is still subject to revision every hour on the hour.
His mother wasn't a school teacher! She didn't teach at that school. How about them apples.
Meanwhile our local media is still reporting she died in her "classroom".edit on 14-12-2012 by PaperbackWriter because: (no reason given)
The last we heard, not confirmed tho, was that she was a substitute teacher there at the school.
And she was killed first at home then he went to the school.
His father and older brother live in NJ....
They at first arrested the older brother due to the fact that the shooter had his brother's ID on him.
But then they released him after they concluded that he had nothing to do with this horrible crime.
They themselves are victims too, the father and brother.
Now they will have to face the wrath of the media as well as the public.
Be put under a microscope, if you will.
My thoughts and prayers go out to them as well.
Originally posted by RobinB022
Originally posted by NinjaKitteh
Originally posted by OpenEars123
Where was god today?? Or every day? whilst innocent children are slain...
So many people's lives are permanently ruined because of this, and other tragedies that happen to children all day every day..
He was greeting them at the pearly gates
God isn't about making things happen or not happen on an individual basis in this, our daily life, he's about what goes on for eternity.
He is in all of us, so the question is as it has always been; Where were we?
Huck explains it's quite well.
Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by Hopeforeveryone
That is because they think the killer has been using the brother's identity.
A lto of the stuff that was flying around wasn't even confirmed by the police.
If it hasn't been officially released, it can't be considered as fact.
anyone who knows how crime scene investigation works knows that all the facts are not upfront or immediate. It takes time to find information. CSI isn't real.
The news media's only job is to report facts, of which, due to contraints on the amount of information the police are able to reveal, are few. They have to fill the news reports with something to maintain the interest of their veiwers, god forbid they go elsewhere and lower viewing figures, which could affect potential advertising revenue. I may be cynical but i think the media is making a real mess out of this tragedy.
9:37 p.m.: A Sig Sauer and a Glock semi automatic handgun were used in the slaying and that .223 shell casings – a round used in a semi automatic military style rifle – were also found.
Originally posted by aivlas
reply to post by loveguy
A parent interviewed on CBS News told the network that his 8-year-old daughter said she heard an argument and cursing over the school’s loudspeaker, apparently coming from the principal’s office. Her teacher then immediately locked the classroom door as a safety precaution.
northhills.patch.com...edit on 14-12-2012 by aivlas because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Destinyone
FOX/Greta reporting Team of Medical Examiners are working through the night, in the school building, to identify each person killed. They hope to release the bodies sometime tomorrow. From there they will go to the Coroner's facility for further investigation. Bullets removed, injuries noted. I pray the Families of all involved get their loved ones back soon, for burial. Also mentioned earlier, there are trauma counselors on site, working with the teams in the building.
Originally posted by slingshot
Found the info about the new security measures that were implemented earlier in the year:
Dear Members of our Sandy Hook Family,
Our district will be implementing a security system in all elementary schools as part of our ongoing efforts to ensure student safety. As usual, exterior doors will be locked during the day. Every visitor will be required to ring the doorbell at the front entrance and the office staff will use a visual monitoring system to allow entry. Visitors will still be required to report directly to the office and sign in. If our office staff does not recognize you, you will be required to show identification with a picture id. Please understand that with nearly 700 students and over 1000 parents representing 500 SHS families, most parents will be asked to show identification.
So I ask again,
1) Why did they let this guy in?
2) There are reports that there was an argument in the principals office that was heard over the intercom. What was this argument about?
3) Why was the shooter wearing a mask?
4) What is the status of the 2nd person that was detained after being found hiding in the woods?
5) Edit: Why was the mother so heavily armed. I know single mothers who own guns, but never met one who had an entire arsenal at her disposal.
I thought this thread was just for posting facts. What I listed are facts (i.e. new security measures, implementation of visual monitoring system, let guy in, shooter was wearing a mask, 2nd suspect detained etc.)
A theory would be saying something like "well, he wore the mask to disassociate himself from the crime". That's a theory, not a fact.
Mods, I know I'm new here, but could we create a separate thread for those who just want to get into a shouting match over who's feeling worse than whom as a result of this tragedy, and just use this one to post facts about the shooting?edit on 14-12-2012 by slingshot because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NinjaKitteh
Because some people believe that there is inherent good in most people including our various leaders at various levels.
Because some people don't believe that each and every person in the world other than themselves is a bastion of evil just dreaming up ways to screw other people over in hopes of gaining some degree of power over them. Because some people lost the most valuable thing in the world today, their child and because those people are going through pain that most of us could never even imagine and other people on here are trying to totally ignore that pain they are going through and try to make some conspiracy out of it.
Because most people in the world have a heart and have empathy toward others and wish to prevent causing more pain to others, especially the people who are already in tremendous pain. Because some people are human as opposed to high functioning animals not capable of emotion or caring or love or empathy.
Mostly, because it's so dang tacky to act that way in the same day that such a tragedy has happened.
Originally posted by loveguy
It makes sense to believe the son of divorced parents discovers something ain't right with the way the Principal pats his Mothers' rear-end? That's the gist of what I've been picking up. Also, what I read here was the shooters brother claiming him to be developmentally disabled? Imagine that the boys' father is his hero, but has to live with mom...Principal + Mom = consequences. That's the only way I can rationalize this craziness.