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Breaking News - Shooting at Newtown, Connecticut elementary school.

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posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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It's like fish in a barrel in a classroom. Only one way out, probably where the shooter stood.




posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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The choice of weapon isn't affected by the laws set in place. Do you really think if there were stricter gun laws, or even if they banned guns, that would prevent a guy like this from going on a rampage??

Absolutely not. He could go to the black market, buy a weapon nearly as easily as buying drugs, and then go shoot people. Guns are here already & there's not going anywhere. The government intervening cannot quell the blood-lust of every random psycho in a world with 7 billion people. Period.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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Maybe this guy, in his twisted mind, was simply jealous of all the attention his mother gave the children at school....I mean, assuming the report of all this killing is true, this sick individual really had some rage inside.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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Data Updated as of: 12/14/2012


Case Information
Case Type: F00 - FAMILY - DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE
Court Location: STAMFORD
Financial Disputes: Yes
Parenting Disputes: No
RFTD Referral: No
RFTD Accepted: No
Referral Judge or Magistrate:
Last Action Date: 11/10/2009 (Last Action Date is a data entry date, not actual date)

Disposition Information
Disposition Date: 09/24/2009
Disposition: JUDGMENT OF DISSOLUTION AFTER UNCONTESTED HEARING
Judge or Magistrate: HON STANLEY NOVACK




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P-01 NANCY JEAN LANZA

Self-Rep: 36 YOGALANDA ST
SANDY HOOK, CT 06482 File Date: 09/21/2009

D-50 PETER JOHN LANZA

Self-Rep: 120 MORGAN ST #405 B
STAMFORD, CT 06905 File Date: 12/03/2008





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100.20 11/24/2008 CLAIM FOR TRIAL LIST
101.10 11/28/2008 P ORDER FOR PARTY PARTICIPATION IN PARENTING EDUCATION PROGRAM CGS SEC 46B-69B
102.10 11/28/2008 D ORDER FOR PARTY PARTICIPATION IN PARENTING EDUCATION PROGRAM CGS SEC 46B-69B
103.10 03/05/2009 C CASE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT
RESULT: Order 3/12/2009 HON MARYLOUISE SCHOFIELD
104.10 03/06/2009 P AGREEMENT
105.10 04/08/2009 D CERTIFICATION TO COURT OF PARENTING EDUCATION PROGRAM RESULTS BY FAM DIV CGS SEC. 46B-69B(C)
106.10 07/15/2009 P CERTIFICATION TO COURT OF PARENTING EDUCATION PROGRAM RESULTS BY FAM DIV CGS SEC. 46B-69B(C)
107.10 09/24/2009 P FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT
108.10 09/24/2009 D FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT
109.10 09/24/2009 P STATEMENT
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111.10 09/24/2009 P AFFIDAVIT RE PROCEEDINGS AFFECTING CUSTODY OF MINOR CHILD
112.10 09/24/2009 P AGREEMENT
113.55 09/24/2009 JUDGMENT OF DISSOLUTION AFTER UNCONTESTED HEARING
RESULT: 9/24/2009 HON STANLEY NOVACK
114.10 10/11/2009 C JUDGMENT FILE
115.39 03/23/2010 C ATTORNEY APPEARANCE(S) AUTOWITHDRAWN PB 3-9



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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What you just said shows you know nothing of weapons or much else. It would be quite easy for a person with a Machete to kill many more than that in twenty minutes. You should talk to a Jamaican cutting sugar cane all day and ask him how many 7 year old kids or defenseless adult he could chop down in 20 minutes, not for real but just, what if.

You know nothing of what you speak, as I said.

I am of rank in hand to hand combat, I specialize in multiple opponents, in real combat have stood off 7 opponents at once, of course they were not trained just bikers, but they were all on the ground and did not want to play anymore.

I also train in kendo sword fighting, with a sword I could easily take down 2 or 3 at a time, so it is clearly easy to see you are all talk when come to this matter.


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posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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Hmmmmmm



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:50 PM
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Newtown is not all that big, only around 2000 people. It's not really that far fetched.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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If I had to guess, I would say it had more to do with how he did it as opposed to him being an excellent marksman. Sadly, we heard the rumors circulating on here how he did it execution style to that one class, which I hate to even think about, but if you think about it, that's probably what happened with only one injured. He more than likely took those in the office by surprise, then marched into the classrooms and did the unthinkable. It makes me sick to my stomach to even think about. I pray for the victims and their loved ones.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by waltdisney




Hmmmmmm


What hmm? that his nieces were in a recital and his nephew wasnt?

Get a clue



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by bknapple32
NO no, maybe ATS isnt the place for YOU. We require evidence. We deny ignorance. WE DO NOT EMBRACE theories that dont even have research into the facts.


This is the biggest conspiracy website there is, are you kidding? I've been keeping up with the "facts" of this case all day. Numerous "facts" have changed in some very odd ways. We are now being told that a mentally challenged 20 year old solely perpetrated this heinous act. Call me crazy, a tin foil hat wearer, overly skeptic but I DONT THINK SO.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:53 PM
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been reading and watchin news, all three guns were registered to his mother, thats all im sayin for now.


 
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posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:54 PM
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When there is a problem, a disease or an injury, you must fix the problem and not the symptom. Guns, bombs, etc. are part of the symptom of the problem. The problem is the general loss of respect and humanity in the people who do such things. It is the society we have allowed. And by allowed, I mean how we raise (or don't raise) our children, what we allow them to watch, the lessons we do or don't teach them...and of course...the time we do or don't have for them.

It is the labeling of people (ugly, fat, gay, etc.), it is the social networking instead of playing, the being indoors instead of outdoors and the total lack of respect for others. Love is gone, or never was. God is gone (and I'm not religious). We don't teach love, worth and respect...we teach, or allow other "things" to teach "me, me, me". We give children a cell phone and walk away not even caring what happens next...as long as they smile and leave us alone. We have two parents working hard...and no one to parent.

And yet...we are surprised, shocked and offended. This is what we, as a society have built. This is our legacy. We are a nation if not a world of takers...whores...the "me" generation. It is truly a shame and I "pray" for everyone hurt or killed in this incident. I'm horrified, but not surprised. And THAT is horrible in itself.

While I would never hope for an apocalypse that knocks us back to the "stone age"...I'm not so sure it would be such a bad thing. Sometimes you have to reboot (or reformat) a computer.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by 1/2 Nephilim

Originally posted by bknapple32
NO no, maybe ATS isnt the place for YOU. We require evidence. We deny ignorance. WE DO NOT EMBRACE theories that dont even have research into the facts.


This is the biggest conspiracy website there is, are you kidding? I've been keeping up with the "facts" of this case all day. Numerous "facts" have changed in some very odd ways. We are now being told that a mentally challenged 20 year old solely perpetrated this heinous act. Call me crazy, a tin foil hat wearer, overly skeptic but I DONT THINK SO.


Facts have changed because it is an ongoing situation. But there is zero evidence that this is any kind of conspiracy. To insinuate that because there havent been blood or guts shown its a conspiracy is ignorance. And the motto of the site is to deny ignorance.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:57 PM
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I don't think I've even posted here before until now, but that has to be one of the best things I've read on this site. I agree with this completely.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
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Newtown is not all that big, only around 2000 people. It's not really that far fetched.


How big is Sandy Hook compared to Newtown?

Because if there is only 2,000 people, how come there were 700 kids at this one elementary school alone and there is another one 1.3 miles away, too.

Awful lot of kids for such a small population.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by ArtooDetoo

Originally posted by noxvita83

Originally posted by MrInquisitive


The news I saw/heard said this attack happened in a space of 20 minutes. A person with a sword, knife or machete would be hard put to rack up this large a body count in this short of time. Your comment shows you know nothing about the logistics of weapons, and hence have no business making comments on such issues.


You're correct about the sword and knife. But it's very easy to kill this amount of innocent souls in less than 5 minutes, and probably even have a larger kill count. No, it doesn't involve guns, it involves making a bomb. Someone like this used a gun because it's convenient, this is true. But if guns weren't available, someone with this mind set would find another means to pull this off. It's not that difficult to those who want to do it, unfortunately. Instead of focusing on the tool used, why don't we try to figure out why this keeps happening?


Wtf is wrong with you Americans ? You only worry about your guns. You gave an example of someome making a bomb, well a bomb is a f***ing weapon too. If you aught to make a home made bomb you would really draw attention of the feds, especially after 9/11. So why do you think its all about guns ? Its about every f***ing weapon that you can use to harm someone


I would say what is wrong with you. There is nothing wrong with what he said, concentrate on the reason why this is happening, not the how. If you want to kill people there is nothing anyone can do, perhaps make it harder, but you won't be able to eliminate it.

Banning, making illegal are poor attempts of control - it won't stop the acts from occuring. Finding out why something occurs, and prevent that - now you are looking at something that will change things.



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by 1/2 Nephilim

Originally posted by bknapple32
NO no, maybe ATS isnt the place for YOU. We require evidence. We deny ignorance. WE DO NOT EMBRACE theories that dont even have research into the facts.


This is the biggest conspiracy website there is, are you kidding? I've been keeping up with the "facts" of this case all day. Numerous "facts" have changed in some very odd ways. We are now being told that a mentally challenged 20 year old solely perpetrated this heinous act. Call me crazy, a tin foil hat wearer, overly skeptic but I DONT THINK SO.


Then you have issues.

Just because the media speculated, did not make ANY of the rumors fact. As the day went on, facts came to light. And honestly, it all makes sense. The guy went into a classroom, blocking the only exit, and went to town with a semi automatic rifle. How hard is it to believe he executed 20 kids? Not very.

People that see a conspiracy in EVERYTHING are just as unstable as our buddy the shooter.
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posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:59 PM
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Has anyone posted anything on the shooter being a Ryan Lanza?

Apparently this screenshot comes from the Facebook of the brother of the shooter and if you read the caption, the MSM has been using this guy's picture as the shooter.

People I swear....



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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been reading this thread for awhile and watchin news, the guns were registered to his mother, i cud say more, but goin wait on this info still, if true,,, bizzare


 
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