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Originally posted by RickKilgannon
I just got an automated call from my daughters high school that there was a threat reported to authorities about a shooting plot for tomorrow. She refuses to stay home saying, " No dumbass at my school is going to stop me from going, whoever it is suppose to be I can guarantee that they arent smart enough to pull it off." So I am letting her go & will just keep my eyes & ears open tomorrow.
Or are you only bringing this up now because you want to bring shame to those who are heartbroken over a particular group of children?
Humans are hardwired to worry about their own community. That is why through the millenia, people take care of their own village or group, and not another's.
Also, those countries commit horrible atrocities against their own people. They don't care about their own children. It doesn't mean we don't care, but people view it differently in war torn nations.
Americans protect their children. They realize how precious they are.
No one has a right to tell someone who they should grieve over.
Originally posted by klebics
16) When Obama flew in many were smiling
Originally posted by tl1977
Holy COW this thread got long! I stopped following it somewhere in the 70's, but I am hoping someone can help me with a question. I know someone said they saw both Adam and Ryan Lanza's Facebook pages, that they both subscribed to some guy who likes guns or something. I am reading in online news articles that Adam Lanza was such a recluse that he didn't even have a Facebook page. Did anyone get a screenshot of his page? Just wondering.
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by DarKPenguiN
Because it can be a nervous reaction, having nothing to do with mirth. Just like cats have a purr for contentment and then a purr for fear.
Originally posted by JBA2848
reply to post by NavyDoc
I simply think the number of clips and the amount a clip can hold is the problem. You can have a gun or a rifle just leave the large capacity out of it. And the line that a clip is only a couple pieces of metal and a spring is bull that people keep repeating. That line is even showing up on the news. Military weapons should be left in combat not on the streets even though the military contractors wish to have a larger market. Explo Systems Inc who got in trouble for storing 6 million pounds of explosives illegally don't even have a military contract. Although they did order 616 crates of explosive from Turkey and had it delivered to North or South Carolina. And they are tied to online sales of gun powder to the public at large. The owners are still hiding over seas. Military Industrial Complex is getting out of control.
Just look at how the assault weapon used was advertised. Man Card?
Originally posted by DelMarvel
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Depends on the model of the AR-15 used, barrell length, accessories such as sights put on, but a plain, unadorned AR-15 is about 7 pounds. 3 full magazines of 30 rounds gets you another eight for a total of around 15 pounds for a rifle and 90 rounds ready to go. Add another 8 pounds for every 3 magazines of 90 rounds. I don't know how many rounds he would have started with.
So if I'm understanding NavyDoc right an unadorned AR-15 with 270 rounds and the magazines to hold them comes out to around 31 pounds.
Not really that much for an adult male of any physique to carry. Even twice that is very plausible. Being skinny doesn't necessarily mean someone is weak. And a lot of the speculation about how "weak" he was is based on what are obviously out of date photos of him as a teen or younger. He was twenty years old.
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by NavyDoc
even though that is not alot of weight for one unit, it is reported this shooter was carrying 3-6 weapons (of varying weights) with an additional 90 clips (and some of those max capacity).
again, it's not excessive weight until you put it all on your body and become mobile.
besides weight, there is extreme bulk.
and personally, i don't see this guy managing it like the story is being told.
11 shots to a single body and still no "stray" bullets ??
here's another thing i'm curious about and i'll bet we'll never know ... the broken windows ... was the broken glass concentrated inside or outside the building ?
Chris Manfredonia, whose 6-year-old daughter attends the school, was heading there Friday morning to help make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard popping sounds and smelled sulfur.
He ran around the school trying to reach his daughter and was briefly handcuffed by police. He later found his child, who had been locked in a small room with a teacher.
NEW YORK — The private equity firm Cerberus will sell its stake in a firearms company that produced one of the weapons believed to have been used in the shootings at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., calling it a “watershed event” in the national debate on gun control.
While saying that it’s not its role to take positions or attempt to shape or influence the gun control debate, Cerberus said it is taking what action it can by selling its stake in the Freedom Group, which makes the Bushmaster rifle.