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Originally posted by NavyDoc
Depends on the model of the AR-15 used, barrell length, accessories such as sights put on, but a plain, unadorned AR-15 is about 7 pounds. 3 full magazines of 30 rounds gets you another eight for a total of around 15 pounds for a rifle and 90 rounds ready to go. Add another 8 pounds for every 3 magazines of 90 rounds. I don't know how many rounds he would have started with.
An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school's principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted. We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have cause the Hochsprung family.
Originally posted by JBA2848
reply to post by MisterMaster
Nvidia is spying for the US government. If you have a nvidia card in your computer. Take a look at user profiles on your computer. They now have created a hidden user on it. UpdatusUser. Take a look at the folder it holds. The file folders on your computer. Documents, videos, links, etc etcedit on 17-12-2012 by JBA2848 because: (no reason given)
Then, during the interview, something strange occurred as Monsignor Weiss began to laugh and giggle on the phone while discussing this grave situation. He was asked how things happened at his school.
“Monsignor Weiss: "We were located...we were notified through the alarm system that's in our town through the school system,"
Monsignor Weiss began. "Our children were actually at mass so we kept them in church for quite a while and then sent them over to our hall where they are still in one group.
So now...we are just awaiting...word from the officials on what we should do from here. I'm more concerned about the...the...
Monsignor Weiss: "(laughter)"
Monsignor Weiss: "...(laughter)...more concerned about the parents waiting to find out what happened to their children (stifling laughter)."
Originally posted by CCKP72
reply to post by SuperStudChuck
I have laughed at ill-timed and awkward moments. It's not something I am particularly proud of, but I can say with certainty that it was never done in serious situation, never mind this, the most horrific act imagineable.
Wtf is going on?
Originally posted by Honor93
i'm gonna have to kinda sorta disagree with ya here.
Originally posted by PaperbackWriter
I don't care if it is a bathroom or a closet. Those in classroom bathrooms have one toilet and sink.
There is no way that all 20 kids more or less are being crammed into them as we are told.
There is no way they would all fit, I don't care if you did put one on top of the tank as Ms.Roiga says
in her account of piling 20 kids into HER classroom bath plus her, too.
only because i've never seen this one (at school) but i've certainly been in them in PA.
some student bathrooms were 3 stalls large and could easily fit 20 small kids+adult.
(and room to spare if they're on the toilets too)
not saying it's absolute, just verifying the possibility.
if it were in my current region, i'd call BS all day.
Originally posted by Steffenfield
I'm glad you took a screenshot of that story as it seems to now have completely disappeared.
Page that is no longer there anymore.
Shooting Reported Sandy Hook Elementary Schooledit on 17-12-2012 by Steffenfield because: Added dead link.
Originally posted by flyswatter
There was a lot of speculation by the media (never a good thing), but the police and city officials made a point to NOT officially release exactly what was used until WELL after the fact. Any information that came out saying "only 2 handguns on him" was complete speculation by the media.
Originally posted by Steffenfield
Retraction And Apology
An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school's principal, Dawn Hochsprung.....
Why would this woman announce herself as Dawn Hochsprung during an interview with the town's newspaper?
Originally posted by stormy46237
I sincerely wish we could throw the whole Aspergers part of this mess, out the window. Unless the kid was on some kind of heavy duty meds to help manage his condition, there's darn near no way being an aspie could have had any bearing on his ability to commit this type of crime.
Yes, people with Aspergers can be prone to hair trigger, violent outbursts "in the moment" but that doesn't fit the scenario here. Most aspies are quiet, withdrawn, non-social (not anti-social), hyper focused people who just want to be left the hell alone. Some tend to lack empathetic cues which would make them less emotionally affected by something as heinous as the killing of children but on the flipside, this makes them less likely to premeditate such an action because, what would be the point?
Other aspies are hyper empathetic. They can't bear the though of anything suffering, can't even kill bugs, so they wouldn't be in a position to plan to do harm to someone or something because it would be too emotionally torturous on themselves.
I just told someone, not 30 minutes ago, that the mention of Lanza having Aspergers is going to mark all the geeky, gamer, aspie kids the same way goth kids were marked with suspicion after Columbine. I have no doubt that they walked into their classrooms today and were given sideways glances and were spoken about behind their backs. It makes me sick.
Whatever caused that boy to snap, if that's even what happened, I would be my next paycheck it didn't have a damn thing to do with ASD.
For the record, I'm the parent of 2 ASD young adults, am on the spectrum myself, and I've been active in the aspie community (yes, there is one) for 20 years.