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How I know God exists.

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posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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You do not understand because you have not done it. You are speaking in a fear of opening the spirit.. God only came to me when Jesus opened my energetic system.. No spirits where there except the Holy one. It was pure love that opened me up.

The third eye is where this all comes in. What exactly do you think a halo is? Golden light pouring into the enlightened one.

You must think Buddha was wrong?

Christians spread fear like it's free sex...

You must understand that if thine eye be single (3rd eye) that thy whole body shall be full of light means just that, when you do it, the meaning becomes quite apparent. It's LITERAL.

By your own definition the light is either good or bad based on your intention and character.. Not based on evil spirits or whatever else. I opened mine with Jesus' love.. I Know God. Personally

It is the kingdom of heaven.
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posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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The Bible says not to do it and here's why...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You opened yourself up to all kinds of spirits when you didn't even understand what the Holy Spirit was.

If you don't know the connection between Jesus and God, then you do not know what the Holy Spirit is. Only the Holy Spirit is a true witness to Jesus and you don't even understand the connection.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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I guess that just goes to show that Christians are so all over the place that virtually everything sounds Christian in some form or another. A clever tactic, given that this virtually ensures the survival of Christianity.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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2 Corinthians 11

3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined


If you don't know the connection between Jesus and God, then you do not know what the Holy Spirit is. Only the Holy Spirit is a true witness to Jesus and you don't even understand the connection.


You repeat that again, but you may wish to read my earlier response.. Seriously.


gospel of Thomas:

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Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

19 Jesus said, "Congratulations to the one who came into being before coming into being. If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings, these stones will serve you. For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death."

He is not here to save you in that way. he did his thing and he is always there helping, but it is up to you..

What is the beginning, and what is the end? Who ever knows 5 trees that do not change will not taste death?
How does one come into being before coming into being?

He speaks of knowing things...



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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I guess that just goes to show that Christians are so all over the place that virtually everything sounds Christian in some form or another. A clever tactic, given that this virtually ensures the survival of Christianity.


Even Islam wants to claim ties to Jesus. Most religions do.

However, it's not a clever tactic to ensure the survival of Christianity. In reality, it's a clever tactic to destroy Christianity just like the Bible said Satan would try to do.


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posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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2 Corinthians 11

3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.



Yes I know what that is talking about.. Are you saying Satan/Lucifer temporarily enlightened me, with christs help?

It is obvious we do not believe in the same God. So I think we can get off this ride pretty soon.

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posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:24 PM
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Surely ultimate belief and spiritual enlightenment isn't what people say, it's what they do. What have the posters in this thread done today to improve the lives of their fellow man/womankind. Isn't being selfless the whole point ? Is intellectual point scoring on an anonomous internet forum really the way to go ?



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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I'm saying that you're being deceived by Satan/Lucifer because you don't know who Christ really is and he doesn't want you to know.


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posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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I guess that just goes to show that Christians are so all over the place that virtually everything sounds Christian in some form or another. A clever tactic, given that this virtually ensures the survival of Christianity.


Even Islam wants to claim ties to Jesus. Most religions do.

However, it's not a clever tactic to ensure the survival of Christianity. In reality, it's a clever tactic to destroy Christianity just like the Bible said Satan would try to do.



So you're one of those. Only truth is in the bible and everything else is corrupted or corruptable, just not the bible because it was magically never read incorrectly or translated wrong? Satans great power doesn't go that far when the post you told me to read says satan can go as far as he wishes even mimicking God???

My God doesn't act, so we are way on different pages.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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I'm saying that you're being deceived by Satan/Lucifer because you don't know who Christ really is and he doesn't want you to know.


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and who is that? Have you not figured out by now by reading my post that I was joking? It was a slight troll to get the conversation centered around Jesus. It didn't work then, but I guess it's working now.. Please get over that, and speak about Jesus not me. Oh judging one. Who is he in this post? Jesus or Lucy?

I am not trying to attack you just discussing. You don't gotta be so bleh..
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posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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What's meant to be known by us will be given to us by the Lord at the proper time. We're not supposed to go looking for them lest we open ourselves up to other spirits as well.

Deuteronomy 29:29

29 The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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What's meant to be known by us will be given to us by the Lord at the proper time. We're not supposed to go looking for them lest we open ourselves up to other spirits as well.

Deuteronomy 29:29

29 The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.


You think I was searching for God?
I was a scientific atheist. God found me.

but your version could be true that I met with satan and had the most wonderful time.


By the way the other spirits are pansies next to christ.

Also your God is kind of a prick.
"Hey lets trick everyone into following satan and then condemn them all to hell hahahaah! What do you think Jesus, I AM you, father. Lets confuse em
"

If that's your God I don't want to know him.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:42 PM
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Satan can go as far as God will allow him and God will allow him the power to deceive many.

Here's what the Bible says about the end times...

2 Thessalonians 2:3-11

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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Yea.. I read all that, but we do not know the same God.
So I'll leave you alone now.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:48 PM
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Now that God has found you and given you a taste of what's out there, why don't you seek him further the way he's asked people to do? God's not deceiving anyone. Satan is. This is why the Bible is important. If everyone would take the time to read it, they would know what to look out for and how to seek Jesus the way it was intended.

A true God wouldn't send you into this world without some instruction and guide to go by, but he will allow you the choice of free will to either pursue it his way or your own. That's the way it was meant to be from the beginning.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:48 PM
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I guess that just goes to show that Christians are so all over the place that virtually everything sounds Christian in some form or another. A clever tactic, given that this virtually ensures the survival of Christianity.


See it's posts like this that really cause me to question your maturity and your posting integrity. Why not just say,
you are ? Or, you're more of it. Or, I know I am but what are you ? You seem to take offense at everything and when it isn't that you're paranoid someone is toying with you. I think we would do much better just to ignore each others posts from now on AI. Let's keep it right there so we don't get post banned one day K? Done.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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Now that God has found you and given you a taste of what's out there, why don't you seek him further the way he's asked people to do? God's not deceiving anyone. Satan is. This is why the Bible is important. If everyone would take the time to read it, they would know what to look out for and how to seek Jesus the way it was intended.

A true God wouldn't send you into this world without some instruction and guide to go by, but he will allow you the choice of free will to either pursue it his way or your own. That's the way it was meant to be from the beginning.



I Know God.. It's all about moving in that direction for me. I'm not searching
I need no Bible to tell me what is inside my soul..
this is where we depart. You say don't seek.. other spirits trick you.. then you say seek, but only like the bible says.. sounds like a pyramid to me.

My True God imprinted me with everything I ever needed, the rest is just talk. when people are told there is one way they fear not being included. human psychology so exploited. And yet I remain free.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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I agree. The only answers that are right are the ones they agree with, even if you can prove the answers that they say are wrong, or can point out fallacies in the answers they say are right. There's no thinking here, only parroting.

This thread is a perfect example of what all the older members have been saying about ATS. There's no rationality, only "I want to believe this." I'm done here, I'm talking to brick walks and empty space. I have better things to do with my time.

The rest of you participating in this thread, good luck in your hunt for answers. From what I have seen, I'm fairly certain you won't find them here. After all:



"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." -- Epictetus


That's my last word on this. Good day.



posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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I think he forgot to explain why something that is a mirror image of us would think to judge us...


We judge our self... or so that is the way I understand Jesus words.

God does not judge his creation. Its perfect in his eyes.

Thy will be done means its complete. Its a commanding statement. Its done. Not getting done... just done.

On earth is times past. Literally speaking.

Jesus makes sense of the word. Truth only comes from the word in which it derives from, otherwise there is just void.

Truth is in the eye of the beholder. There are many branches to the tree of life. It has but one root and the root is its purpose. To grow and blossom.

Remember the day I was trying to explain the seed of my rose bush and how I connected with it on a spiritual level? Weird.... maybe.... lol.... but the dots connected and when I go back and read what Jesus says.... he spoke with the same revelation.

Everything we want to know is in the Bible. Jesus does not lie.

Speaking of.... I am reading Revelations again as each time I come out with a new understanding.

I am trying to understand the significance of the star named "Wormwood".

Anyways.... thats off topic and my mind is straying a bit so I will end this post in 3....2.....1



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