reply to post by Hopeforeveryone
aw, trying to attack me now :p
No, we can imagine it for sure. but imagination is based on our current ideas, so we could be way off! Yes, we would need to go back in time, pre "big
haha, i am loving how cute you are, trying to get me with the "science fact stuffs!!!".
"You're trying to tell me my childish beliefs about a fear-mongering creator of the universe are wrong? WELL HOW ABOUT YOU TELL ME EVERYTHING ABOUT
REALITY LOL LOL."
This is how it is.
Experience, human is aware. This awareness is manifested in a complex array of matter. (typically known as the brain). Let's just say, after a long
time, many of the possible combinations of matter, manifested as an aware entity in reality.
Where did we come from? Well we don't know, eventually we measure that there was a "big bang" and a "singularity".. So, what caused it? We don't know.
What we do know, is that we didn't suddenly pop into existence as a complex form, one second nothing, next second, complex brain. doesn't happen like
So anyway, I can totally allow room for other consciousness to exist in the universe (pre big bang even, though i don't really know). So if there was
a consciousness that existed Pre-BB, then it would have a similar problem to us. The environment would have already existed - and some kind of
fluctuation (like the big bang) caused a "movement", which led to energy/matter going through all the various possible forms.. Eventually the pattern
becomes coherant and mimics the kind of pattern we might see in a human brain today, something that indicates awareness/feedback/experience. So, you
have one single conscious entity in a void of space, we could call it "god", but this entity did not create the reality in which he manifested. It's
competely illogical to think of a being that created itself. Just like us, we formed from something we cant necessarily comprehend, and any other
consciousness before us, will have the exact same problem. So, in essence, we ARE "god". So, maybe its just an endless cycle of consciousness, maybe
consciousness is an underlying property of the universe at a quantum level. None of the conscious entities would be able to transcend his experience
or comprehend how anything came into existence. And I don't think it matters. What matters is moving forward!
Therefore, I don't believe in any of the religious texts that imply a creator of the universe. On a personal level this creator would not be able to
argue logically with me about his origins
At which point, be you bug, human, "angel", or GOD!... At which point, can you ever say... Reality makes sense, I can justify my existence, even
though none of these entities would have created themselves or the reality they exist in! There is no answer! And earthly religions on the whole are
limiting in thought
edit on 16-12-2012 by WorShip because: (no reason given)
edit on 16-12-2012 by WorShip because: (no