The Wife of a Slave Owner's Letter to a Runaway, and the Subsequent Rebuttal

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posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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What struck me more than the claims of slavery and the audacity of the former slave owner attempting to extort money from what she considers her 'Property' is the difference in the command of the English language whereas the former slave has a knowledge of the language that far surpasses the former owner.

I am merely posting the highlights here but follow the link for the entire exchange of letters between these two...Slave & Master.

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In 1834, 21-year-old Jarm Logue (pictured above some years later) managed to steal his master's horse and escape the life of slavery into which he had been born. Sadly, his mother, brother and sister remained. 26 years later, by which time he had settled down in New York, opened numerous schools for black children, started his own family, become a reverend and noted abolitionist, and authored an autobiography, he received a letter from the wife of his old owner in which she demanded $1000.


I now take my pen to write you a few lines, to let you know how well we all are. I am a cripple, but I am still able to get about. The rest of the family are all well. Cherry is as well as Common. I write you these lines to let you the situation we are in—partly in consequence of your running away and stealing Old Rock, our fine mare. Though we got the mare back, she was never worth much after you took her; and as I now stand in need of some funds, I have determined to sell you; and I have had an offer for you, but did not see fit to take it. If you will send me one thousand dollars and pay for the old mare, I will give up all claim I have to you.

And his reply:

Yours of the 20th of February is duly received, and I thank you for it. It is a long time since I heard from my poor old mother, and I am glad to know she is yet alive, and, as you say, "as well as common." What that means I don't know. I wish you had said more about her. You are a woman; but had you a woman's heart you could never have insulted a brother by telling him you sold his only remaining brother and sister, because he put himself beyond your power to convert him into money. You sold my brother and sister, ABE and ANN, and 12 acres of land, you say, because I ran away. Now you have the unutterable meanness to ask me to return and be your miserable chattel, or in lieu thereof send you $1000 to enable you to redeem the land, but not to redeem my poor brother and sister! If I were to send you money it would be to get my brother and sister, and not that you should get land.

My favorite piece of the article:

You say you have offers to buy me, and that you shall sell me if I do not send you $1000, and in the same breath and almost in the same sentence, you say, "you know we raised you as we did our own children." Woman, did you raise your own children for the market? Did you raise them for the whipping-post? Did you raise them to be driven off in a coffle in chains? Where are my poor bleeding brothers and sisters? Can you tell? Who was it that sent them off into sugar and cotton fields, to be kicked, and cuffed, and whipped, and to groan and die; and where no kin can hear their groans, or attend and sympathize at their dying bed, or follow in their funeral? Wretched woman! Do you say you did not do it? Then I reply, your husband did, and you approved the deed—and the very letter you sent me shows that your heart approves it all. Shame on you.

And a timeless quote that stands today more than ever. It seems the Former Slave is now the teacher:

Have you got to learn that human rights are mutual and reciprocal, and if you take my liberty and life, you forfeit your own liberty and life?

Note: After escaping slavery, Logue changed his name to Jermain Wesley Loguen.

Slavery is a stain on the West that will never heal because it is still practiced in many forms. The freedom act of 1865 merely made it illegal. It did not end. In fact it's a well known fact that Slavery is a Global issue that is growing year by year.

Many still compare slavery to what we know of American History but History hasn't been erased. Child Slavery is rampant Globally and increasing year by year. Forced prostitution, is it not Slavery? Chinese workers getting paid nothing or next to nothing to feed the materialism needs of Western Societies...Is this not Slavery? So many more instances but I believe the picture is clear.



Have a look at the live Human trafficking map:
human.globalincidentmap.com...

Anyways, before I go off on a rant I just wanted to post the above letter exchange from a Slave & Master where it is clear that the Slave has risen victorious. I found the letter fascinating and very uplifting.

Peace


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posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 11:29 PM
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Methinks someone has received their brainwashing well. And continues the propaganda favor forward. Kudos.



posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 11:40 PM
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What exactly was propaganda or brainwashing in the OP?



posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 11:46 PM
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I read that letter a while back and found it quite interesting. I can't believe the slave master had the balls to ask his former slave for $1000...talk about a sense of entitlement and absolutely 0 regard for humanity.

It's sad that any form of slavery still exists in the 21st century.



posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by SELAboy
Methinks someone has received their brainwashing well. And continues the propaganda favor forward. Kudos.


Youthinks incorrectly.

Nothing new here tho.

Care to back anything up with...oh I don't know. Actual intellect?



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posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by ShotGunRum
I read that letter a while back and found it quite interesting. I can't believe the slave master had the balls to ask his former slave for $1000...talk about a sense of entitlement and absolutely 0 regard for humanity.

It's sad that any form of slavery still exists in the 21st century.



And that's the issue.

It wasn't balls but rather a sense of entitlement.

Peace



posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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A sad tale, One filled with pain and Hypocrisy.

You are 100% right. The slave traders have NEVER gone away. Neither will stories like this one.

Its a shame that even with the letter penned, his family still suffered under the same mentality the slave owner viewed nonchalantly.

S&F



posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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reply to post by jude11
 


Yeah you're right, balls wasn't the right word.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 01:46 PM
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what you say is true



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 01:47 PM
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We have came a long way



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 02:22 PM
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My family have had slaves in the past century .

They still carry our family surname .

It is wrong to enslave human beings against their own will .

Slaves of my family were never Africans but other Caucasians .

I still feel responsibility towards these people .



posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 05:31 AM
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Sounds forged. The part about "insulting a brother", black men did not start to call themselves such until the very,very recent era.


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Also, the average cost for a person wrongfully enslaved was around $300 to $600 for a young healthy male.
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posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 06:09 AM
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I hope this threat will open some eyes to many people. Slavetrading is still alive and global. I also started a threat about it but was deleted.

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posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 06:25 AM
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They never teach the truth about the northern slave ships that were sent to Africa to kidnap the slaves in the first place. No one ever talks about the native Africans that prospered by helping slave ship owners trap their poor brothers into a life of shackles and abuse.

There are so many different ways to enslave someone.

These days they are still enslaving our population with addictive drugs that numb our brothers and sisters senses and take away their spirit.

The addiction cycle transforms them into a hollow shell not unlike the bowl of their crack pipe, an abyss just searching for yet another rock to fill the void and give them a fleeting frenzied elation that soon passes.

One can argue that those enslaved by the drug industry had a choice, but how much difference is there between getting trapped by addictive drugs, and getting trapped in Africa by the Northern slave traders and their helpers?



posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by Cauliflower
They never teach the truth about the northern slave ships that were sent to Africa to kidnap the slaves in the first place. No one ever talks about the native Africans that prospered by helping slave ship owners trap their poor brothers into a life of shackles and abuse.

There are so many different ways to enslave someone.

These days they are still enslaving our population with addictive drugs that numb our brothers and sisters senses and take away their spirit.

The addiction cycle transforms them into a hollow shell not unlike the bowl of their crack pipe, an abyss just searching for yet another rock to fill the void and give them a fleeting frenzied elation that soon passes.

One can argue that those enslaved by the drug industry had a choice, but how much difference is there between getting trapped by addictive drugs, and getting trapped in Africa by the Northern slave traders and their helpers?


They weren't Northern Ships per se, Anglo Americans and Jewish Americans in New England(I think Boston or RI) financed them for a time.



posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by korathin
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Sounds forged. The part about "insulting a brother", black men did not start to call themselves such until the very,very recent era.


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Also, the average cost for a person wrongfully enslaved was around $300 to $600 for a young healthy male.
edit on 23-12-2012 by korathin because: (no reason given)


1. The modern use of the word comes from somewhere, it didnt just magically appear. Or, I suppose you think all that jive talk was just made up in Detroit, Chicago and Harlem some 40 years ago? Brother comes from the religious sense of the word. Hence he also writes in the letter "my brothers and sisters" not referring to his actual siblings, but the understanding that all human beings are equal. Brother means he as a male representation of this fact.

2. Well, the lady was complaining about land and her mare. Maybe she thought he owed her interest or damages for lost wages. Also, considering they didnt want free slaves, I could easily see a higher cost for the slave to purchase his own freedom. Consider the concept of a company store...read Grapes of Wrath, it's in there for an example. You go to buy meat, bread or potatoes at the store and it's one price, but for many itinerant farm workers, you're forced to purchase goods such as these from the "company store," where the prices are higher and often, if not careful, a worker can quite literally go into debt to his employer such that it is de facto slavery - always working for a company because buying from that company puts you in perpetual debt.

...side note, we fell behind with our cable company last year. I called them up to cancel a second telephone line and the basic channels so that we would only have one line and DSL Internet from them. The wage slave on the other end of the phone says...oh, you can't cancel service if you are behind in your payments. I politely asked him if he could not see how ludicrous that was and how exactly I was supposed to get out of debt to them if I'm locked in to taking their service? I think I actually heard the gears of critical thinking skills start to turn on the other end of the line. I would say my example here is another modern one of de facto slavery.



posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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There are areas where slavery still is legal according to their laws, and religious laws.

Not to mention our corporate elite has taken land from villagers around the world, murdering families and villages, and then set up slavery in the coffee, cocoa and vanilla industry.

Its the most obscene thing going on this planet.

And we have to be more aware, surely, and attempt to speak up and make changes.

Not only are the abuses and prostitution and work camps, even prisons, used as a kind of a slave work forces and sexual slave, but MONEY ITSELF MAKES EVERYONE SLAVES. Scarsity is a slave system, a musical chair system of scarsity and fear.



posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Cauliflower
They never teach the truth about the northern slave ships that were sent to Africa to kidnap the slaves in the first place. No one ever talks about the native Africans that prospered by helping slave ship owners trap their poor brothers into a life of shackles and abuse.

There are so many different ways to enslave someone.

These days they are still enslaving our population with addictive drugs that numb our brothers and sisters senses and take away their spirit.

The addiction cycle transforms them into a hollow shell not unlike the bowl of their crack pipe, an abyss just searching for yet another rock to fill the void and give them a fleeting frenzied elation that soon passes.

One can argue that those enslaved by the drug industry had a choice, but how much difference is there between getting trapped by addictive drugs, and getting trapped in Africa by the Northern slave traders and their helpers?


I'm so sick of this argument because under scrutiny it doesn't hold up.

It's not as though slavery began under the premise of Jim Crow with slavers whistling Dixie in white robes. The Portuguese did not start the European slave trade in West African persons for some racial motive. The racial motives became justifications. The reason slavery occurred was that it was lucrative and it's easier to subjugate and oppress the "Other" than it is to oppress a mirror image of yourself - might cause an identity crisis and subversive schizophrenia, "I am the person I am enslaving. I would not like being enslaved; ergo, maybe I should release this person I have enslaved."

This post is not meant to be either an apology for the African tribes that sold other Africans nor for the European slave traders.

When the slave traders bought slaves in West African ports from West African merchants, it was not a matter of Black people selling Black people. On the contrary, it was a member of one tribe selling members of different tribes. All people's around the world have been complicit in slavery of some kind or another at some time or another.

Just because we (historically, we here in the US, I mean) see "Black" people as monolithic, they are not so. "Black" Americans are the result of mixing, not just with European or Indigenous Amerindians, but also one tribe with another. In West Africa there are numerous tribes that speak numerous languages, some are related more closely than others. Some adopted Islam, some continued their native religions. They did not see each other as a unified "Black" group.

So, the simple answer is: No. They did not trap their poor brothers. They trapped and sold people that they saw as the "Other" just as much as they would have seen the Arab caravans or the Portuguese or Dutch slave ships as the "Other".

The next best example is the one from Mexico. The perpetual question asked is why the native Americans helped the Spanish to conquer themselves by fighting with them against the Aztecs and northern tribes. It wasn't the case that these people saw the "Aztecs" as mirror images of themselves contrasted against the "Spaniards". Rather, they saw themselves as having a new ally (the Spaniards) against another, wholely different group of people (the Aztecs).





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