Bullying and Intolerance...you are really hurting me!!!

reply to post by Revolution9

What generally happens is that I get ignored first of all. So I have to step up the tempo to get noticed so people will talk back. Then all I get is abuse.

I no longer work because I was bullied out of two jobs and I broke down.

I now refuse to work and YOU have to pay for it, tax payer!!!

Just letting you know that you are hurting me. I will fight you back because I am not a coward, but people pretty much disgust me nowadays!

Translation: I want attention. If I don't get attention, I will provoke you. Once I've provoked you, I will report you to the authorities for criticizing me, or being rude to me.

My personality traits have left me jobless, so now you have to pay for me to get by with your tax dollars. That's what you get for not paying attention to me, and telling me I'm right in any subject we discuss together!

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Yeah, great rant...

reply to post by SimKey


This person needs help. Your opinion on how this person should be helped is an opinion, not objective fact.

You cannot describe anything as objectively abhorrent because objectivity does not exist when discussing morals.

Your comparison of modern day morals to 60 year old morals is not relevant to this thread, and is not helpful to the OP.

The OP should seek professional help, but he will not because he believes he is enjoying his mental apex while everyone else in the world is "asleep" so all of our opinions are worthless, to the OP.

The best thing we can do is deconstruct the OP's world so he doubts himself long enough to seek help.

Originally posted by SimKey
All this thread does is reinforce my dislike of contemporary society and its lack of basic manners and social graces.

Decent people don't speak to others as this person is being spoken to here. This may be normal for this day and age, but that in no way makes it acceptable.

Whatever are you talking about?? I think most on here are being quite understanding and trying to help. Maybe I am missing something??

Originally posted by SimKey
All this thread does is reinforce my dislike of contemporary society and its lack of basic manners and social graces.

Decent people don't speak to others as this person is being spoken to here. This may be normal for this day and age, but that in no way makes it acceptable.

Waaaah! Those buwwies are picking on me! MOMMEEEEEEEE!

What are you, twelve years old?

reply to post by Revolution9

So are you a recluse or you want to be more socially engaged? Which one is it?
There is a huge difference between those two. Work it out, and you'll know what to do.

...oops... one tango down in this thread

Originally posted by Revolution9
I live alone. I am a recluse. The most part of my social interaction is online these days.

I come to forums like ATS and Rolling Stone to socialise in part.

What generally happens is that I get ignored first of all. So I have to step up the tempo to get noticed so people will talk back. Then all I get is abuse.

This is happening to me on a constant basis.

Even my so caled real friends have been intolerant of my Christianity.

I no longer work because I was bullied out of two jobs and I broke down.

I now refuse to work and YOU have to pay for it, tax payer!!!

In the last week almost every post I have made has been responded to with nastiness and bullying.

On Rolling Stone I was defending Randy from Lamb of God about a fan's death after he pushed him and he cracked his head on the concrete (the fan that is). I was told to "Shut up" because my post was too wordy and eloquent.

I post here in the last two days and all I get is bullying and intolerance if I say anything that is Christian in nature.

I just had to report an ATS member for this after he followed me around today and ridiculed my every post; this was just out of malice.

Just letting you know that you are hurting me. I will fight you back because I am not a coward, but people pretty much disgust me nowadays!

I am me! I can't change that! Give me room to be who I am without having to respond with cruelty! Is that too much to expect? Or is this all I should expect from even you ATS?

Is that all I should expect? Should I shut my mouth up? Is that what you want?

Why? I give you room to be who you are!

Give me room and let me breathe!

a recluse
reporting people
claiming victim status


maybe you should examine your actions.

also maybe developing a thicker, non victim skin might help

but don't expect me to want to molly coddle you

I used to care for people, too much my beautiful lady says,

but now ..........................


I am old, bitter, twisted and a really lousy person to know

and I enjoy it

ps the above three lines were observations not attacks so please don't cry victim over them

cheers

reply to post by Revolution9


Find your way out into society brother, it is bad at times out their but you will never find peace without searching.

I was in your shoes or close 1 year ago becoming a "hermit" will make you feel safe for now but do nothing good for your mind or it's stability for that matter in the long run. try to peacefully avoid the places that make you feel bad. as you do this though make sure you have something else to occupy your mind. the key is keeping busy and sane.

P2P me if you like, Depression a horrible beast and people sometimes just don't GIVE A F**K infact they can make it worse, I have been their


“Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes.”

William Gibson

Originally posted by smyleegrl
You are giving away your power, my friend. Don't LET others bully you....they can't do it if you won't allow it.

Perspective and attitude can make a world of difference. In your rant, you come across as a victim; someone at the mercy of others. Change your thinking. You are a survivor, not a victim. And you are a worthwhile person.

It's not easy to do, changing attitudes and perspectives. But I promise you, it does work. And I make you another promise. I'll always listen when you need to talk, to vent. U2U me anytime.

Wowser I wish I had someone like you to turn to when things got hard for me in the past, It works I just had to find out the hard way.... I made some serious mistakes I hope the OP takes your advice I really do.

Surround yourself with people you love and trust OP if you can, If not their will always be decent good people on ATS to support you. I'll even do what I can

It's easy for people to antagonize on the internet... look at what Facebook is for example. People don't relate well to each other anymore... social media can also be a social disease. One doesn't have to look into another's eye when saying what they feel like saying... it's easy.

The hard part is picking up and carrying on. I mean really... the beauty about places like ATS is that you don't know these people! I understand it can get tedious and tiring oft times, but for those opinions to bother you, those people have to matter... and a stranger trolling on the internet shouldn't matter. Why let an opinion that doesn't really matter bother you so?

I like saying what I have to say to people face to face, sometimes things just come out wrong in type. Communication is more about words. When you're face to face there are gestures and expression to help convey the meaning. Only words and little emotes online, and in the words of George Martin: "words are wind"

Let action be the means by which you are measured.

Stay strong, stand up for what you believe in and try to be less sensitive toward those who are insensitive.

reply to post by steve1709


So what would you do if felt abused and on the back foot? get on with it?

a recluse
reporting people
claiming victim status

So what should one do when one is bullied on said web?

So what would you do if you felt "victimised" smile on?
It is not that easy, I agree that maybe some can paint themselves as a victim but remember their is also victims in this world, more than non victims and that's for sure.

If you have nothing to offer why come into this thread with the words you said?

Old you may be and cynical definetly, I know loads of old farts like you and all I can say to you pops is we ain't built the same no more just the odd one or two out of place, show a bit compassion man it won't kill ya.


You never know the karma might come back around

Originally posted by RAY1990
reply to post by steve1709

 

So what would you do if felt abused and on the back foot? get on with it?

a recluse
reporting people
claiming victim status

So what should one do when one is bullied on said web?

So what would you do if you felt "victimised" smile on?
It is not that easy, I agree that maybe some can paint themselves as a victim but remember their is also victims in this world, more than non victims and that's for sure.

If you have nothing to offer why come into this thread with the words you said?

Old you may be and cynical definetly, I know loads of old farts like you and all I can say to you pops is we ain't built the same no more just the odd one or two out of place, show a bit compassion man

it won't kill ya.


You never know the karma might come back around

karma is a weak person's excuse for not being able to take a teaspoonful of cement and toughen up sonny. You're tellin me you "aint built the same no more"

and if that means i'm out of place, then so be it. Had too many times when I've dropped my guard and wore it. vo best thing this bloke could do is forget about the wo is me stuff and move forward. In "the old days" it was called tough love. But these days we "shouldn't stress people out, hurt their feelings or put them under pressure. And whay happens? When they're put in a position of pressure, stress or having to like themselves for keeping on going, they can't. You can have your pussy soft ways "sonny" not for me. so did that answer your question on what I'd do? You asked, I answered. If you like it ..... good, if you don't like it ..... good

same outcome for me either way. And what ever happened to sticks and stones? sheesh,

Originally posted by RAY1990
reply to post by steve1709

 

So what would you do if felt abused and on the back foot? get on with it?

a recluse
reporting people
claiming victim status

So what should one do when one is bullied on said web?

So what would you do if you felt "victimised" smile on?
It is not that easy, I agree that maybe some can paint themselves as a victim but remember their is also victims in this world, more than non victims and that's for sure.

If you have nothing to offer why come into this thread with the words you said?

Old you may be and cynical definetly, I know loads of old farts like you and all I can say to you pops is we ain't built the same no more just the odd one or two out of place, show a bit compassion man

it won't kill ya.


You never know the karma might come back around

To the OP:

Stop making excuses.

Way harsh, I know. But it's the truth. And you need to hear the truth.

I learned the difference between victim and survivor the hard way. It took years, following a violent attack that devastated me physically and mentally. I withdrew from society, because society hurt. It was dangerous out there.

That's how I lived. A recluse, a victim. Until one day I realized I didn't want to be a victim anymore. Then I began reclaiming my life.

It's not easy, and you will have setbacks. But until you make the decision to CHANGE YOUR LIFE, this is how it's going to be.

Please understand, although my words are harsh, they are said with love and hope for you

First of all... I love you. I swear to god I do.

Like most stories, this one starts at the beginning.... We'll take a quote from yourself, if you don't mind...

"It usually starts off with me getting ignored....and I feel I must up the tempo to get noticed or heard or whatever" (Note: this quote is an approximation made by me and carries no guarantee of accuracy.

I believe the core of your problem lies within this statement.

You believe you are being ignored, and you don't seem to like that very much. And that leads to more problems.

You have to ask yourself... Why are they ignoring you?

Ok, what I'm about to say might seem rude or whatever, but there could be something about you that you honestly don't realize, that is making a huge first impression on the people around you. Your family is probably afraid to say anything cause they love you and they don't want to hurt your feelings...especially if they can sense that you are sensitive. So, with the goal being to help you, I'm going to list off some things that may be causing an undesired reaction in social situations... Because I went from a more rural, small community, to the 3rd largest city in my state when I was 12 or 13. And there were certain habits and behaviors and even little sayings of mine that were, shall we say, embarrassing and unattractive... Luckily my best friend who I hadn't seen in 5 or 6 years lived in the city and he was not afraid to tell me when I was acting like a dork or scaring away the chicks.

Basically, we are gonna do a run down of the senses...

First, one obvious thing would be smells... Although my legal guardians never taught me this, I learned from my best friend and from school how important hygiene really is. You must shower at least every other day. Just because YOU don't smell anything, that doesn't mean you don't stink! Even if you smell like something good, you won't realize how you smell most of the time because you get used to the smell and you will not notice it. Just like if you light a scented candle and sit in the room for an hour with it, you won't notice the scent as much, but if someone were to enter the room, they would immediately be overtaken with this new scent and would probably comment how good it smells. So, with the knowledge that you yourself may not notice what you smell like, the best course of action is to take no chances. Shower every day. Use deoderant and cologne (or purfume if you're female). I think the deoderant that doesn't contain aluminum is better for you, although some say that almost every deoderant, shampoo, body wash/shower gel/soap, body spray, toothpaste and just about everything is full of harmful chemicals. So you can do research if you want to find something natural AND safe... Remember natural does not always mean safe. There are a lot of poisons and venoms and unsafe things in nature. In the mean time just use something. Anything is better than nothing.

Another thing I'm not sure if SOME people realize or not, is that, when you shower, although it is ok to wash your hair every other shower, I prefer to do it every shower even though it washes out my own "natural healthy oils"... But what I was going to say, is, when you work the shampoo through your hair, once you get it all through to the scalp and your whole head of hair is saturated by the shampoo, you need to let it sit for 2 or 3 minutes before you rinse it out. It makes a difference. So, during this waiting period you could lather up your face with some face wash (a seperate product than what you use on your body. You can use the same soap, body wash, shower gel, whatever on your face as you do your body, but, I use a Nutrogena face wash. Then by the time you've got everything above the shoulders lathered and scrubbed good with a fresh, clean washcloth, then you can probably rinse off both your face and your hair at the same time. You can count to 20 or 30 to be safe, but I always rinse off immediately because I don't want any to seep into my eyes. Pay special attention to the oily areas around the nose and forehead and chin. ("The T-Zone") Also, from spending months at a time living in a tent in the mountains of the Pacific Northwest, I know that the area behind the ears, as well as the belly button, can get to smelling pretty funky when they have not received the amount of attention they require, so always scrub those areas good...some people don't realize that soap and shampooo must touch every part of your body, and every part of your body must be scrubbed with a clean cloth, sponge, loofa, whatever. Then the obvious places to maybe pay some extra attention to would be the armpits, crotch including genitals and anal region, and feet including between the toes. It's easier to clean if your body is well groomed. I don't grow hair on my chest or back, but if you do you may consider shaving as well as the genital region and if you're a female you might Oh, out of characters. Well pm me if you want me to finish.

reply to post by Revolution9


your father should have named you Sue.

reply to post by Revolution9


Friend, nei, Brother! Do not let evil get to you, for the ones who play with it, do not know what they do.

There will be people who try to prevail over you with their bad taste. But understand, they do it because they themselves feel ill inside, but they seek to fill that empty hole for all the wrong reasons.

Of course it shouldn't matter if you are a christian, an atheist, a buddhist or whatever else. Everyone should be done by good.

Belive me when I tell you I really do feel for you. Nobody should have to feel alone. But if nothing good comes for you through social interaction, pray with a whole heart, mind and body in love, faith and hope to God.

Feel better!