reply to post by kaylaluv
You can try to rationalise and equalise and BS all you like,but at the end of the day the storyline hasnt changed,stay away from marriage and keep
your gayness to yourself and if you arent gay and trying to save gay people from the big bad world,then get a life,but above all else STAY OUT OF
MARRIAGE,it was created and designed to protect and support women and children,hetero couples,NOT gay couples.
You must have the mental challenges ,I do not oppose gayness or fairyness or any other name you want to tag onto this lifestyle,I dont care if you
think you got gay from a virus,or from a tequila night or from birth,all those issues are besides the point-----STAY AWAY FROM MARRIAGE -------that is
for heterosexuals who plan on having children,I dont care about your feelings you are not supposed to spin doctor things to fit your personal
preferences,I dont care if your heart is solid gold,keep your noses out of marriage.
Go apply with the government and the churches for your own gay marriages,stop trying to hitchhike on all the hard work the heteros before you put in
you lazy bums.Stuff your lawyers as well,who cares if you can `legally`flaunt your illness in front of everyone because a judge says so.Know this,you
are legally forcing an issue society does not want to allow you to have,you are FORCING us all to conform to your ideals and to accept you by using
laws designed to defend and protect women and children,that is the most cowardly thing I have ever seen.
And for the record,it is good when gay people meet and stay together,at least they arent making any more sick babies,and no you shouldnt get ANY
marriage rights whatsoever.And no you shouldnt get to adopt either--children have an inborn right to a hetero perspective from birth,you have no
right to sell you twisted brand of reality to children,NO ONE HAS TWO DADS ---its a lie and its sickening.
Two men or two women sharing a relationship or private moments IS NOT sickening it is human behaviour,selfish twisted people who are willing to
sacrifice and abbrogate the safety and security of children by bastardising whats left of marriage in our culture to satisfy their personal wants and
desires is sickening,and the thought of gay people brainwashing a normal kid into thinking that gay is normal is also sickening.I do not believe gays
should be allowed to adopt and if they have kids and then go gay,same rule,no gay teaching,you can explain to your kids that you have an illness when
they are old enough like a diabetic would.Judges should not grant custody to parents who are living and teaching a gay lifestyle to their kids,gay
people cannot have children.And if they do before they are gay they need to give them up to deal with their illness before getting them back.When the
day comes that they can sit there and tell their kids they suffer from an illness then they can have the kids back,but they need to come out of denial
People are born with illnesses all the time,so what,you still need to be grounded in reality,gays just get lawyers and try to change reality to fit
themselves and they DONT care who they step on as they try to do this.
Leave marriage alone,it is for women and children,not gay couples.Make your own marriage laws the same way heteros do,if you can that is.But you
already know you cannot so you get lawyers and force society to accept you on terms you yourself dictate.And then you wonder why you take heat,after
jamming your illness down everyones throats.
Gays will never get the benefit of the doubt and as quickly as the marriage laws were bastardised they can be returned to the way they were,dont
assume things will stay how they are.
I have gay friends,but not delusional gay friends,all gay people arent activists,many are very much out of denial and are trying to make the best of
their lives without forcong their illness on other people by using laws,politics and hidden agendas to further their personal perspectives at a cost
to women and children.
You really dont think gay people are afflicted with an illness--------
You are screwed in the head,imagine trying to tell a non-medicated schitzophrenic that it isnt really god they are talking to in their head!!!!As we
know they might kill you trying to defend their own reality,now try telling a gay person they arent normal and they are ill---you will get a similar
reaction as they scramble to rationalise the reality they WANT and attempt to change the reality they LIVE IN with the rest of us.Its like a schitzoid
getting a lawyer so they can stop taking their meds and stay sick,many many mentally ill people do just this they go to extremes to keep their own
reality intact even if it means hurting women and children,teaching normal kids that gay is not an illness is a prime example of this behaviour,no one
wants to be labeled when they have an illness but we still need to do it so we can help them get better or at least learn to live with their
illness.it only becomes an illness when there is a willingness to hurt women and children through the bastardization of marriage which was specificlly
designed to protect and support WOMEN AND CHILDREN,not gay couples.
A schitzoid is not ill if they stay away from people and dont try to get the rest of us to do what the voices in their heads tell them to do,but as
soon as they do that we need to get them medical and mental help,exactly the same with gays,come out of the closet and try to change heteros or their
systems and institutions to fit your gay reality and expect to be treated for your illness---stay away from societys concerns for women and kids and
you can self-treat until you die and no one will bother you,and if they do,buck it up,life is hard for everyone who has an illness.
Thats where I stand,I dont care to interfere with anyones life gay or not gay,but when people screw with women and kids and the preventative and
protective measures society has developed for them over many many generations the gloves come off and you are in for a fight to the end,NO WOMEN--NO
And for all you non-gay people who get off being able to say you have a gay friend because you think it makes you more progressive or cool,get a
life,these people are sick and you should not take advantage of them this way and glorify their illnesses to garner attention to yourself.
And to the lippy poster who alluded that I may have mental issues--you are the reason people pick on gays because you try to start fights when most of
them know they are ill and are trying to get by,good luck in your crusade,I am feeling pretty comfortable persuing mine,and I happen to have the
majority of humanity on my side,we ALL want to help people who are ill in some way big or small.
And so the record is straight here,pardon the pun,when I walk down the street anywhere in this world I am surrounded by hetero people,and I like it
that way,it keeps me grounded in reality and prevents me from defending an unjust and undeserving cause,gayness is an unjust and undeserving
cause,treating gay people mediclly and mentally who act out within society ,is a just and deserving cause.Trying to horn in on traditional marriage by
refusing to apply for your own gay marriages is a sign that intervention is needed,trying to take healthy normal babies and teach them that two men
sucking face is normal is a sign intervention is needed,trying to put books in schools full of normal kids that promote gay marriages and say its
normal to have two dads or two moms is a sign intervention is needed. I will die knowing that hetero is normal and so will everyone reading this,there
has been no gay revolution just some lawsuits initiated by undiagnosed gay people,gayness will one day be recognised as an illness again as it was in
the past,and either way I am comforted knowing that. many many people who are born with or develop illnesses of many kinds lead happy productive
lives,one day gay people will also have this peace of mind and peace of soul,the medical world just needs to work harder to frame a way to diagnose
and treat this illness.
You want to get married,then get a gender reassignment and go for it,you want to get married gay---forget about it,and yes there is a very big
difference,someone getting a gender reassignment is based in REALITY and is dealing with their illness in a reasonable way,I would support any gay
person who chooses to sacrifice their gender assignment they were born with to be abe to adopt or raise children,but NOT openly gay and untreated
people who are not in the same reality as the majority of humanity.There it is,one of you go get your plumbing changed and teach your kids that hetero
is normal and I have no problems,but I will never allow a gay reality to overshadow a hetero one in the eyes of our future generations.
People are born without normal arms,legs,eyes lungs,and sexual orientations,and we have a societal obligation to help and treat them all no matter
what challenges they face day to day,we are obligated to provide our support as soon as they rebel and try to spread or propogate their illness.Times
change as the societal perspective on gayness also changes,the pendulum swings both ways and will forever swing out of balance for gays,this is the
world we all live in.
I will never say gay is normal on any level wether some claim to be born gay or not,doing so is anti-humanitarian,just because you are born with a
defect or a difference doesnt make you normal by proxy.I have never gone out of my way to interfere in any gay persons life in any way,until now when
i see this marriage issue come up,its sickening the nerve of these people.I will never judge a sick or ill person that isnt exibiting
anti-humanitarian behaviour either--but I will aknowledge their state and try to help them seek treatment if they try to change or influence the
hetero based systems we have in place for women and kids---like marriage..
And to all you part timers who sideline by swinging both ways then go back to the comfort of your hetero relationships and reality---but lip off and
defend the gay cause without aknowledging it as an illness,you are sick in the head for taking advantage of ill people,you are worse than pimps and
johns.I dont respect you.swing both ways and keep your mouth shut and I will simply have no respect for you,speak out and up on the topic and i
immediatly assume you have been afflicted with gayness and strive to offer you help and treatment which we all know starts with helping you get
through the denial stage,all illnesses can be approached from the same basic curative perspective in a general sense.
Just wait till a diagnosed #zophrenic decides to get a lawyer stop his meds and run for the Presidency,ha ha ah ha ha.it sure is a crazy world ,and
sometimes its good to remind ourselves we dont really get very much time here on earth so we need to remember to think of the future generations a
little more than ourselves--hint hint.Dont leave a mess when you leave this world,just try to make it run smoothly for future generations and give as
much as you take.
And speak your minds,dont let convention or propriety keep you silent,who cares what the small special interest groups think,they are small and
special interest for a reason,because they are so few,just give no ground up on behalf of normal reproducing humanity to try to ease the suffering
of a small group of ill people .
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