Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by begoodbees

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You just said it. "I believe" you believe in evolution although you cannot prove it. I never said anything about what I believe. You assume that because I don't blindly buy into the evolution nonsense that I am religious. This demonstrates your ability to accept your own assumptions as fact.

Did you not say this in the OP:

It seems evident to me that species were created to sustain themselves within a given set of parameters

I assume that since you said this...you think creationism is a viable theory. That's cool, so do I. But if we follow your logic, believing in either evolution or creationism is religious in origin.

The point being that in trying to label those that believe in evolution as religious faithful, you have painted yourself into a corner in which you fit into the same pigeon-hole you laid out for the rest of us.

I do not follow any doctrine of man therefore by my estimation I am not religious. I do not take anything for granted. This is not about me anyhow it is about religious persecution.

Originally posted by begoodbees

Originally posted by homeslice
reply to post by begoodbees

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But over more time with more variations something would change into a different species. It would "evolve".

That is a perfect example of the speculation/faith I am referring to.

Originally posted by Evil_Santa
reply to post by begoodbees

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Look through my posting history. I have posted numerious examples of evolution happening (into new species) that has been observed by modern man. Some of these examples are even based on threads made on this website.

You either don't want to work with current information, that would question your beliefs, or you can't find the search button/never heard of google.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Actually, there are many instances of evolution.

wiki.answers.com...

Just take a look

~Tenth

Originally posted by begoodbees
The fact that so many people religiously believe the most unlikely and implausible explanation for where the most sophisticated objects in the known universe (living things) originated is the best evidence of this global conspiracy.

The utter obsurdity of this unproven speculation that somehow something as complex as even a single cell could manifest on its own in a pool of chemicals is mind boggling. Add to that the complexity of DNA and it becomes not just implausible but impossible.

Why do so many people believe this so easily while scrutinizing everything else so carefully. This seams to be the one area where otherwise scientific minded people choose to believe in magic. This is why I and I believe many others have labeled evolution not an observable or provable science but in fact a religion.

Many people I believe have been bullied into a middle ground stance that life was created to evolve which makes very little sense as well since there are no transitional fossils on record. Every past so called evidence of transitional species has been eventually proven phony such as pig tooth man better known as Nebraska man.

Pig tooth man was portrayed in true propaganda style on the news as the missing link. If the news propaganda machine does this in any other arena critical thinkers and conspiracy theorists would instantly see the seeds of conspiracy, but with evolution we have been programmed/indoctrinated that any explanation other than evolution is just plain ignorance. I wonder how many times I will be bullied and called ignorant for presenting these facts.

In classrooms all over the world and on every nature/science show that I have seen in my lifetime evolution is presented as fact. I never hear them say “Scientists speculate” before mentioning the subject. Why is something with nothing but circumstantial evidence being presented as factual science? I know what the religious fanatics will say, but if it cannot be observed and reproduced than it is not science.

Opposing evolution in the modern day is like opposing any other prevalent religion in the past. Persecution is what follows.

It seems evident to me that species were created to sustain themselves within a given set of parameters, thus variations can and should occur. One species changing to another more complex species defies logic. The line given is usually as follows “slight genetic mutations over time, survival of the fittest and abracadabra humans are born”. The problem I see with this is that there has never been a case of a genetic mutation that was beneficial to an animal or human. What they call genetic mutations the general public calls birth defects and although they might not all be crippling none of them are beneficial or an improvement upon the norm.

Let the name calling begin.

Here is another perhaps more coherent analysis of the subject.

www.icr.org...

edit on 13-12-2012 by begoodbees because: added link

Originally posted by Osiris1953
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Perhaps not, but that is exactly what it will devolve into. Which is why there is absolutely no point to this. It happens every single time.

Originally posted by Wertdagf
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Could you please comment on the struture of the fossil record and the sedmentary layers they are found in...

This is strong evidence for evoultion and is a required knowledge for a degree in biology.

Heres a video, if your as ignorant as you appear to be this might help it even has music so you can pay attention because obviously school didnt work.

YouTube Link