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Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by dorkfish87
So print more money to purchase these bonds from the government is what they're doing. Devalue the dollar so people that are actually feeling the economic crises more acutely can now buy less with what little money they have... Seems like a bad idea to me, or their intentions are contrary to what they say.
Yes I'm aware most money is not paper money, but digital. Same rules apply: the more American money they print the less it's worth
A move like this has almost no real impact on average Americans. That's just hyperbolic.
From my earlier link:
Quantitative easing may then be used by the monetary authorities to further stimulate the economy by purchasing assets of longer maturity than only short-term government bonds, and thereby lowering longer-term interest rates further out on the yield curve.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Too bad I did not pay more attention to calculus when I was getting my associates degree.
Derivatives based on leveraging are to blame? I remember derivatives and limits but failed calculus, eventhough I was good in algebra and ok with geometry and trigonometry.
Originally posted by jough626
Where is all the money (the 16t debt)? If it's spent, why does it not circulate? Spend it here, it goes there, then goes there.. Shouldn't the money just stay "in the system", so to speak?
Is this money system built to do this?
It would seem to me at this point, no matter what happens, this will fail. The economy can't improve, more money only makes it worse.
What is the real fix?
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by randomname
Actually, for what its worth? Yeah.. I do know how many dollars are out there. The Federal Reserve Bank system is good for one thing. They do keep track of their own assets....that is...cash. They keep meticulous control of it.
Here are the M- (Money circulation numbers) 1-3 up to 2002.
Fed Bank of St. Louis Money Circulation Reports W/ Historic Detail
Or the more current M1 and M2 numbers...
Fed M1/M2 Circulation to 2012
They keep almost obsessive statistics on all of it. One may be really surprised at the level of detail it's tracked.edit on 13-12-2012 by Wrabbit2000 because: minor correction.
Originally posted by MajorKarma
Okay, I tried to show the way to seeing the big picture but without exception all who have responded to this thread have shown themselves neck deep a product of this false paradigm.
Dollars will not matter, ownership is all that matters; ownership of land and resources that have been secured behind a mountain of laws and bureaucracy, backed by the military. The Elites have been expanding and imploding, expanding and imploding, and each time gathering the ownership and control by incorporating others into their structure but no ownership.
But relax, they are all mortal; Solomon said it best, All is vanity; what was high, will be brought low...as for you and I, take pleasure in the fruits of your labor, dance while you can.
Originally posted by smkngnz
If I print off money that doesn't exist, it is called fraud and I go to jail. If the government prints off money that doesn't exist, it is called quantitative easing and it is legal. What a load of bs... when the world finally says we won't accept the US monopoly money, the US citizens will experience a depression much worse the the Great Depression, and now one will import goods into a country that has no real currency. For me, that is a scary thought and I fear for the American people if such an event would pass.