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also, i'm not really sure this thread needs to have gun talk thrown into it.
Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by bates
I'm a small woman who lives alone. If my gun is taken away by the government and someone breaks into my home, then rapes me and slits my throat with a hunting knife, can my family sue this great government because they took actions to prevent me from protecting myself?
Originally posted by bates
i was talking to you.
you do realise this is all HISTORIC abuse don't you.
it hasn't all happened at once 6 days ago. if it did we would make some sort of positive change in order to stop it happening again.
are you really saying we can't have a voice on your mentally ill gun laws because of a few paedophile rings stretching over decades?
that is truly bizarre and pretty scary reasoning.
also, i'm not really sure this thread needs to have gun talk thrown into it.edit on 20-12-2012 by bates because: (no reason given)
Correspondence showing the depth of the friendship between Sir Jimmy Savile and former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher is unveiled today in a secret Downing Street file that has been heavily redacted by civil servants following revelations about sexual abuse by the late entertainer.
Originally posted by DrHammondStoat
Originally posted by Power_Semi
I think some of this is ridiculous to be fair.
As much as I think paedos should be hanged, to arrest and charge Stuart Hall because someone claims that he indecently assaulted them 30 to 40 years ago is madness.
The Police can't even find evidence to solve crimes that happened 5 minutes ago - look at the girl who'd disappeared in the summer, they searched the house 4 TIMES, with dogs, and the body was there the whole time.
I have absolutely no faith whatsoever that they have found enough evidence to charge someone because someone else claims something happened all that time ago.
I think it's turning into a witch hunt and all of the whackos and compensation seekers are crawling out of the woodwork now.
I don't think it's ridiculous if someone like Stuart Hall did assault children, no matter how long ago.
If you read the news reports the charges are from 3 seperate individuals, different years, who must have come forward independently. Testimony like that from different witnesses is enough evidence. There is a rape allegation that has not been charged. People were dismissive of the Savile claims at first saying the victims just wanted money.
Stuart Halls name had not been associated with Savile, so why would 3 or more women come forward about Hall and just be 'whackos'?
I know on this thread I have tried to point out that Savile and Yewtree are getting a disproportianate amount of press and that has been misunderstood by some - but I would never dismiss any potential victim of abuse as an attention seeker.
Any potential witness should be listened to first and not dismissed because it was 'years ago'.