A mean-spirited America: Today, I fear my own government more than I do terrorists, page
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reply posted on 4-5-2003 @ 12:04 PM by kramtronix
Originally posted by Ocelot
NEW YORK, May 2 — These days, a sense of apprehension and foreboding lurks in the back of my head and the pit of my stomach. It’s a gut-wrenching reminder that something very bad has happened and is about to happen anew. It is an anticipation of the next insult and injury in an America that has been defined under the Bush administration by a profound meanness of spirit.

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that guy has some issues if he fears our own government more than terrorists. i smell anti-bushism.

i would have to speculate that the most "frightening" times in america, as far as being scared of OUR government, would have had to been during the cold war. now, since we made it out of that mess just fine, i'd have to say we're going to be OK this time around as well.


reply posted on 4-5-2003 @ 12:46 PM by VzH
It is important to remember that the Nazis created a "shadow government" in Germany even as the "democratic" Weimar constitution continued to operate in theory. Hitler at first implemented his programmes through the constitution, using existing government agencies and departments. Later he set up Nazi Party bureaus that duplicated the functions of the Weimar government, allowing the latter to remain in place but without power, while the Nazi bureaus (especially the SS, and of course Hitler himself) held the actual power. The Communist Party in Russia created a similar invisible government after the Bolshevik revolution, leaving the revolutionary constitution as well as the government bureaucracy in place while Communist Party agencies and the General Secretary wielded the real power.

If the tendancy toward social breakdown continues in the advanced industrial nations, it's not difficult to conceive of voters electing overtly authoritarian, right-wing administrations campaigning on law and order platforms. In the face of widespread rioting, looting, and mayhem (especially if it spilled over from the ghettos and threatened the suburbs), reactionary hysteria could propel authoritarian types into both the executive and legislative branches of government. The "middle classes" (i.e. professionals, small business people and so on) would then support charismatic martial style leaders who promised to restore law and order, particularly if they were men with impressive military or police credentials.

Once elected, and with the support of willing legislatures and courts, authoritarian administrations could easily create much more extensive mechanisms of invisible government than already exist, giving the executive branch virtually dictatorial powers. Such administrations could also vastly increase government control of the media, implement martial law, escalate foreign militarism, further expand the funding and scope of the police, national guard units, secret police and foreign intelligence agencies, and authorise more widespread surveillance of citizens as well as the infiltration of dissident political groups. Random searches and seizures, curfews, government control of all organised meetings, harassment or outright banning of groups that disagreed with or attempted to block government policies, and the imprisonment of political dissidents and others judged to be dangerous to national security would then become routine.

These developments would not occur all at once, but so gradually, imperceptibly, and logically given the need to maintain law and order that most people would not even be aware that an authoritarian take over was underway.

Indeed, it is already underway in the US...............
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