posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 09:20 AM
reply to post by MarioOnTheFly
So everybody that commits suicide is mentally ill?
Did I not quote the case of my good friend. Respected businessman, well liked and with many friends and very successful. You CANNOT judge on outward
I would say that there are few if any that commit suicide who are balanced but there may be exceptions and I can think of some circumstances but they
do not relate to this case.
If there is mention of this illness, feel free to link it. I may have missed that.
Feeling depressed does not equal mental illness.
Have a read of this: Symptoms-of-depression
The world is not so black and white. I would hazard a guess that you are relatively young and not an ancient old fart like me. I have seen depression
get at people. It is NOT rational and in some cases you just would not know.
Feeling depressed is NOT the same as suffering from depression. I kind of knew you would say that. What you are talking about is feeling down in the
dumps, unhappy, grieving etc. These are not symptoms of mental illness but clinical depression is a mental illness and you would not necessarily spot
it in someone you did not know well.
The thing is...if this person committed a murder under the same set of circumstances...you would have been all over her. But since she murdered
herself...there is an aura of "understanding" and "sympathy" around it.
I simply do not subscribe to this.
She did not murder herself, she took her own life. Such is not possible. Murder is the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. I
consider that this also applies in he war scenario.
Should feel sympathy for the man who has recently killed his girlfriend and than took his own life in front of spectators, claiming hard life
and the fact that she left him few days ago. I his mind these are reasons enough. He wasn't proclaimed mentally ill. But a murderer.
It is a very fine line. I would not consider the taking of his ex-girlfriend's life and then his own to be the act of a rational mind. I personally
would consider him to clearly be mentally ill but the judicial system cannot wreak it's ritual murder on a mentally ill person and thus in certain
countries the judgement of murder prevails.
I would have no sympathy for him, but again you have missed the object of the sympathy here. It is sad that this woman took her own life. I have
sympathy for her family. I cannot have sympathy for her as she is dead. In the instance of your example I would have sympathy for the family of his ex
and for his family. I could not have sympathy for him as he is dead.
But I have said enough. I cannot make you understand. Only experience can do that.
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