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The Truth About December 21st, 2012 (and it aint nuth'n).

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posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 01:42 PM

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by BlueMule
Great thread OP. Could you talk about the 2010 solstice with the lunar eclipse? Given the importance of the sun/moon/earth/galactic center alignment, why do people feel that this upcoming solstice is 'more important' than the 2010 one, when the 2010 alignment was more profound?

Please share more on the 2010 alignment, that would be interesting. As to 2012, many of us are presuming that the Mayans knew something about "The Great Year" and the turning point of the ages in so far as their calendar began with the end date of this solstice, and worked backwards from there.

I think there is an undiscovered or overlooked margin of error somewhere which means that 2010 was actually 2012.

posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 03:13 PM

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
And if there's a valid spiritual or psychological "focal point" or what I would call a cosmological theodolite (lens) in any of this, which I believe there is, then it involves the breaking up and dissolution of all that is unreal, and the reintegration of what is real, or the denial of all ignorance and the acceptance and embracing of receptivity of the light of truth and of spirit informed by reason.

Re: Dissolution and reintegration - this reminds me of Jesus' parables of the treasure hunter and the wealthy merchant in search of the most precious of pearls. In case one, the guy, on at last finding the buried treasure, immediately reburies it (in a secret place) and goes off and buys up the whole field (just to be sure) and in case two, on finding the precious pearl the wealthy merchant immediately and without hesitation sells everything he owns (and he was wealthy) just to have that one pearl. There is humor here, a lot of it, when we consider the notion that only one thing is of the utmost importance to us (what's real and true to heart) which to have means letting go of all the rest of the nonsense that stands in the way of our appropriation of the very best of the best, both without and within. This means the jettisoning of it all, every cherished opinion, every preconceived bias, every hard judgement and every reality filter, even our entire "reality tunnel" (Anton Wilson) itself, and then there it is! It's what's left when we give up everything that's absurd and ridiculous, which can only become the comedic material of the ages in hindsight and in the light of truth and reason, the knowledge of which is the knowledge of a present moment experience, not just of being alive, but being real, as we truly are, naturally and authentically. It's not an imposition on the mind in other words, everything else is, what we used to be concerned about and that we were clinging to - now seen as the garbage that it always was, and that's FUNNY! It's both sad on the one hand, and on the other offers us a level of hilarity (and spiritual and psychological liberation) at our own expense (or whoever we too ourselves to be, or, not to be) of the farthest reaching significance and proportion (there's the cosmic theodolite, or lens, from our end).

It's a "double bind", don't you see, the "eschaton at the end of time and history" - may it unravel itself in the cosmogenesis of the noophere ASAP, because we are in need of it with the utmost sense of urgency!

It's a joke capable of saving the world, as I mentioned in the OP "P.S."

I hope you get it, for everyone's sake.

It's both very very serious and not very serious at all, both at the same time.

So this Christmas, you'd better be good for goodness' sake.

Nothing else is even worth doing that's the funny part.

Oh to be lost and found again in an ocean of delight and eternal bliss this Christmas, and put "out there" a reflected (and magnified?) vibe of great love and a loving embrace (reintegration) of life, maybe even a love so great that it transcends death itself in life meeting life unto the very flow of life in eternity as an already always state of mind and being, and as a new starting point, beginning as always with the end in mind where every end is just the end of one beginning and the start of something new, something novel or creative and therefore something fun, and playful, and joyful.

Who woulda thought that we live in a friendly universe?

And if it was unfriendly, then we wouldn't be here and this conversation would be moot.

And then we're back to contemplating the super-intelligent design concept, until our hearts burst in love for God and then we experience our own reintegration with God not as a point of "faith" but as our very condition, what a marvel, for those who will.

Merry Christmas everyone, and Happy New Age!


December 12th, 2012 (too bad it wasn't 12:12)

edit on 12-12-2012 by NewAgeMan because: with love, Rudolf. >;O)

posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 04:13 PM
There's nothing mysterious or intelligently designed about the fact that we only see one side of the moon - it's called tidal locking. How it basically works is that when one side of the moon is facing the earth, the gravity from the Earth causes a tidal bulge (just as the moon's gravity causes the Earth's oceans to bulge resulting in a tide). The crust of the moon essentially gets pulled towards the Earth, causing it to bulge, which produces heat as the crust expands and contracts. This energy is lost from the orbiting body's rotational momentum, and after a sufficient period, the time it takes for it to make one revolution will be equal to the time it takes to complete one rotation. If you want more information, just look up "tidal locking".

posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 04:14 PM
The kingdom of heaven... what it's like (the premise by which those parables were given).

Hmmm....maybe it's worthy of real consideration and contemplation, maybe even our own present moment life experience.

It's never too late to start over again.

posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 04:17 PM
reply to post by Nanocyte

I never said a thing about that, about the single face of the moon being the one always seen from earth. There are something like 30 other moons which tidal lock and I already know it's not a big deal. Question is - what would be the orientation and dynamics of the earth without that singular, giant moon?

Take a look through the post again and actually take in what was presented and then come back and we can talk about it if you like..

edit on 12-12-2012 by NewAgeMan because: typo

posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 04:19 PM
Wow!.....I've got to say this is just what ATS needed!....there just aren't enough "Truth about 2012" threads around these parts at the moment!

posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 04:20 PM
reply to post by Argyll

Try reading the content before making a presumptuous comment (why does everyone do that, just jump straight to their own conclusion..?).

posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 04:38 PM
I just want to share an important video with you guys. This person explains in scientific terms what is going to happen on the 21st of December. I hope you guys find it helpful. It's a little lengthy, but nonetheless very interesting I promise

posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 06:05 PM
Re: Cosmic Joke at the end of the age.

From the thread "2012: The Rise of Humor..!?!!!"

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

When we get to the end of the "program" let us call it (said like Morpheus in the Matrix), and we come to that space where there's nothing more we can do, or I should say that we MUST do or are compelled to do - when we come to nothing in particular as the everywhere always state of eternal being and becoming, we suddenly realize, perhaps to our horror if not shame, that the only thing that really mattered in the final analysis, was and is, love, or in our case, looking around at the world as it is, an abject failure in love.

"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried.
~ G.K. Chesterton


Why is this a laughing matter?

Because what was reasonable, was abandoned and rejected in favor of everything that was unreasonable, and yet its unreasonableness, is so utterly unreasonable ie: foolish (in one way or another) only because we also know, on the other hand, what IS reasonable! It's still there, the sanity we lost as a "civil society", lurking under the surface like a taproot or a rhizome or as the unseen Eschaton at the end of time and history just waiting to spring it's absolute reasonableness upon us all, first to our horror and shame and to our dismay, and then eventually (if we take the inquiry to it's logical conclusion), our hilarity - of the kind capable of wiping away the tears from our eyes, only to produce tears of laughter in their place, which eventually come to an end in the form of a smile (instead of a frown).

Although having come back to our "senses" in accordance with all preconcieved standards of "normalcy" we might give our head a shake, altogether forgetting what we were just laughing at or smirking over; we may glance at our watch, thinking about something that we're not even certain is important as the chattering mind flits about momentarily unsure of itself, only recovering a precarious balance of power in its favor by quickly reasserting it's absolutely UNreasonable authority over us in turning our attention once again away from what is (was) reasonable and rational, to the next utterly mundane and absurd preoccupation, even "concern", or perhaps if we so choose, a grave concern. Maybe even something that gets us really PEEVED OFF!

"It's a bad bad world" we conclude, while the glorious world-waiting-to-be-born (firing straight out of the womb of suffering) is immediately discarded out the window with a splash of bathwater in favor of Facebook and Twitter, as CNN or even G_d forbid, Fox News, eminates from the flat TV screen and, lost again, we float around many of us for YEARS, forgetting all about that one quintessential most important and vital thing we were supposed to remember and once knew, even as something you could feel in your bones as a child. And, as sad as it is, in hindsight, athough we might have caught fleeting glimpses of "it" from time to time, it eventually became one question and line of reasoning we just shrug off as of no consequence, and most certainly nothing to get emotional about!

The Cornerstone of Reason

And yet, as if from only the thinnest of membranes away (from the insanity and absurdity) there's this powerful and abiding, even indominable "cornerstone of reason"; of "reason", if only because everything that's stupid just can't stand up to the weight of it's perfect and pure common sensibleness. Then, in recognition of this powerful center of reason and logos (spiritual reason) we may indeed giggle, and we may laugh, and right there at that very moment, as Wolf Blitzer somewhat painfully (he's looking sadder by the day) and in a monotone voice and demeanor drones on about Syria, or Iran - the clear light of truth dawns AGAIN, and we burst out laughing at a world gone awry for all the wrong reasons, and then we KNOW that the rock of ages IS coming of age!, against which the follies and absurdities of history will surely crash, in gales of laughter, sorrow and regret, and then at long last, more laughter, as we laugh ourselves AT OURSELVES straight into a domain of newound historical possibility, relative to which the rantings of the so-called "power elite" like Obama or Romney, are rendered mute (and moot), and there, here again, at the end of history as we know it, you/WE laugh again, together, because you/WE were the first ones there/here at the end of the age (and the beginning of a new one as an age of living water from a boundless jug) to experience the RISE OF HUMOR, and it was our own.

It was and is the humor of perfect understanding, as a veritable ROCK against which everything that is ridiculous and absurd is brought first to light, and then to the brunt of the ridicule, yet not without dissolving it's sting or the absurdity of its injustice(s) in the light of pure reason and love and compassionate awareness and a more complete understanding and comprehension, thus giving backbone and rational support to any good joke at absurdity's expense, and we've got enough material surely to last a millenium!

God help the politicians though, and bullies everywhere, because soon there won't be anywhere left to hide, least of all behind your own skin and bones, when the heart becomes visible and we come to see face to face both ourselves and one another, precisely as we are, authentically, and at least in our case authentically smiling for all the right reasons, and as for the rest well if they've completely lost it and there's nothing that can be done, come along and "leave the dead to bury their dead", until they too get the joke, even if a little late and from the wrong end of life, it makes no difference, only that it arrives eventually which for some reason is always on time and never too late.

Welcome to the 2012 Cosmogensis of the Noosphere! (said like an announcer at a three ring circus).
Welcome to the OmegaPoint of Common Sense and Reason (and of Spirit of Truth and Wisdom).

Best Regards,

NAM aka Bob

Amuzing reply to that OP, which surely applies to someone other than just me (I hope?) LOL!

Originally posted by apushforenlightment
I think I will answer the post with this video. It seem fitting;

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posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 06:21 PM
And in the Christmas Spirit, for whatever it's worth I offer this for my American friends and neighbors (I can't watch this video here in Canada any more, sadly).

And yes, there's something about Christmas time which is also applicable to this thread because there's just so much content surrounding it, both as a celebration of the birth of Christ AND of the death and resurrection symbolism pertaining to the winter solstice, and if what some of us suspect is true then it's of particular significance and "import" and "export" this particular solstice.

It is a time for great celebration and lots of love, family, friendship, and buried axes.

With love from Canada,

God Bless, Merry Christmas and Happy New Age!

NAM aka Bob

P.S. Can you feel it? Can you feel the Christmas spirit, the new dawn, the new possibility? I sure can. It was there when I woke up this morning and may even have something to do with my activity in relation to this thread, but I'm on cloud nine here!
and I hope that you might begin to feel the same way if you don't already.

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posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 07:53 PM
from another thread, need to post it here

Originally posted by htapath
reply to post by fourthmeal

I totally concur fourthmeal. I have been going through the same process, writing down my thoughts so as to express them in a specific way. Forgiveness is a biggie and it's like wringing water out of a football field sized blanket by hand.

I'm also focusing on being here now in the present moment with an open heart and appreciation for the lessons learned. Just reading your posts and typing this out helps tremendously, so thank you.

Looks like one of our tests is enduring the ever present peanut gallery. I love you all in Dolby surround sound and I'm happy to be tied to your whipping post. I'm pulling for all of you.

posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 02:21 AM
Compliments of my ATS friend SyntheticPerception

I couldn't resist.

You know the meaning that we assign to our lives is what gives our lives meaning, and we're entitled to assign meaning to any significant turning point, so in hindsight there'll be no laughing at or ridiculing this particular 2012 thread.

Sure some of the things in the OP may be based on a certain amount of conjecture and speculation I'll be the first to admit to that and point that out, but not the quest for the meaning and the significance of a turning point of the ages, nor the talk of the world saving joke, that I stand by wholeheartedly.

In hindsight, sure to a large degree it will be business as usual, but you see many of us are already enjioying a profound spiritual experience regardless and that experience is valid because that's the experience that we're having! LOL

You can't take it away from me now that I've got it or grokked it, and if this whole 2012 turning-piont-of-the-ages has served even in a small way towards making the realization and the recognition possible, then it too is a valid turning point, if not for the whole world then at least for me.

Personally I think that consciousness and awareness and even spiritual bliss is increasing dramatically for many of us, and while it can't last forever, I'm rather enjoying the novelty of it. Maybe it's the novelty of novelty itself, who knows, perhaps the eschaton at the end of time and history has already arrived in the form of some sort of humorous realization that we or many of us simply need to catch up to.

So as for "The Final Countdown" I say BRING IT ON!

For me, it's a countdown to the novelty of more than just another new year, for me I'm marking it as the turning point of a new age, an age of enlightenment, and of spirit and reason combined and reintegrated in a newfound appreciation of just who and what we really are and what we're even doing here in the first place.

Best Regards,


edit on 13-12-2012 by NewAgeMan because: typo!

posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 03:54 AM
Earth Moon Sun Relationship

I just discovered from another thread in the Grey Area that there is to be a Jovial/Lunar Eclipse (moon eclipse of Jupiter) on this upcoming Christmas day night, of 2012. Cool.

Sometimes such things are significant and here we have our moon eclipsing the king of planets. For me, from the research I've done (see the thread linked in my sig) such a thing is not without any meaning or significance.

posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 05:21 AM
I just finished watching this, it's pretty trippy. Give it a spin or should I say a vortex swirl.

Guess we'll soon find out!


posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 05:15 PM
reply to post by NWOwned

Thanks for that. I went and started a thread around it only to discover, too late that someone else had done that first. Here's the OP (and you're in it too!)

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
"2012 A-Z" - A Galaxial Event of Disneyesque Proportion

Compliments of ATS member NWOned (what an unfortunate monicur, sorry NWOwned, but some of us believe in our absolute individual liberty so I hope you don't believe that through and through why give yourself away to "them"?), the video, from what I've seen of it so far (I was so taken with it part way through that I was compelled to create a thread for it) covers the Mayan Calendar and our position in the rotating galaxy, which it depicts with the utmost precision, pointing to the Great Year in many more ways than one. It really makes you wonder, not what will happen on 2012, but what it means or could mean, even as it relates of the future trajectory of human history, civilization and, our future evolution (or in-volution as sage/master Meher Baba would call it) within the context of the whole creation within which we are immersed and, if some among us are right, stand as a high expression of that same cosmological evolutionary process by which we've come to be here in the first place.

Therefore, for me at least, this forces me to consider some deeper, more profound issues in regards to origins and destinies. I can accept that these people were sending down to US at this time, a message in a bottle, that indeed a new dawning of a new age IS at hand, may it be a Golden Age in accord with what's in everyone's mutual best interest, if we can just lighten up a little bit, become a little more aware, understanding, comprehending, compassionate.

Me I'm the eternal optimist and therefore can't understand why we are not celebrating this event, even globally. It's the end of the year this year in more ways than one this year, and the coming of spring is a springtime at all levels, even galactically, as our star circles in relation to it's nearby stars including one "central sun" in the Pleiades along with Sol's twin the star Sirius (it's starting to sound like a family of stars..)

We the "little man" must also be given to know and understand this, so that whatever meaning is to be assigned we might having the luxury of assigning ourselves based on our own evaluation, without hindrance or coercion from anyone (including the anti-2012 I told you so nah nah nah nah nah nah, crowd). Furthermore, if there are any benefits to be had with this knowledge, may it come to us, each and every one of us as children of God, that we, not the "PTB" might appropriate it's true benefit and, if there's one to be had it's arrow of civilized progress. A new beginning, a do over. And it's never too late to start again.

I can almost hear the anti-2012 Peanut Gallery immediately jumping to conclusions and shouting that it's all nonsense and nothing more, but that just doesn't satisfy my own curiosity and I always try to keep an open mind and, from what I've taken in watching this video, so far anyway, I'm discovering to be utterly astounding, in so far as this is the "Sacred Celestial Science" at it's best, rendered in a circular piece of stone, my God, how did they know where everything was in relation to everything else, these were an indigenous people and yet they possessed the most complex and informed galactic calendar, in the history of mankind.

Is that not worth at least looking at, to ponder the idea of a Great Year, of a Spring (first event on the calendar), a Summer, a Fall, A Winter and a NEW Year, within the context of the larger 26000 year cycle, which relates directly to the rotation of the galaxy itself. How cool is that?

We're here to deny ignorance, right?

Sure some have been going nuts for many years now saying something of a material nature, an event of some kind, is going to take place, but is that not just the most simplistic conception of what might very well be a turning point of actual historical significance?

Imagine missing the turning point of the Ages?

That's what we were all just about to do, and then, when the world didn't end, chalk the whole thing up to absolute nonsense, while smashing that bottled message on the rocks of contemporary modern history.

You tell me. I hope you enjoy the video.

Merry Christmas, and Happy New Age!


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posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
You claim there is lots of evidence for all of this and yet you provide none. I guess all I can do is start with a few questions. Who are your sources for the claims regarding the Galactic Plane? I can provide a number of scholarly articles that state we are nowhere near the Galactic Plane and have never seen an actual scientist who says we are about to cross it. My second question is why would the Precession of the Equinoxes start over on a solstice? The reason their called Precession of the Equinoxes is because it is determined by where the Sun rises on the equinoxes. Of course this ignores the fact that the Precession of the Equinoxes is an arbitrary system created by Man that has no beginning or end. I await the evidence you say exists but so far it sounds like you are just parroting baseless New Age claims.

The OP was very close to the actual scenario, which is actually much much more astounding to take in in its fullness, shown here in this same video posted by NWOwned above.

Hope that helps.

posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 11:17 PM

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
You claim there is lots of evidence for all of this and yet you provide none. I guess all I can do is start with a few questions. Who are your sources for the claims regarding the Galactic Plane? I can provide a number of scholarly articles that state we are nowhere near the Galactic Plane and have never seen an actual scientist who says we are about to cross it.

Check this out.

Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
reply to post by NewAgeMan

Anyway, here is a picture or 2 that I found interesting to share with you...

From the Sun...see what I see here?

The alignment you were asking for I think...

posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 11:32 PM
I wonder, what's going to happen to forums like these if nothing happens on 12/21?

posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 01:20 AM
reply to post by semperlux

Someone who's curious and open minded might take the time to actually read the content maybe?

This thread is still good to read if nothing "happens".

How simple-minded to we have to be to assume that if nothing "happens" that there was no turning point or anything of significance involved?

posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 05:37 PM
reply to post by NewAgeMan

I have a differing view. I believe that Man is nothing special in this Multiverse and we are just one race among Multi-Millions or more. People just think too much of themselves.

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