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Originally posted by Foo_Lovers
I very much doubt he would make such an order.
Originally posted by curiouscanadian777
"Exclusive: UK military in talks to help Syria rebels - International coalition could offer air and sea support as well as military training" Tue 11, Dec/12
The prospect of Western intervention comes as opposition groups, which have been disorganised and divided, at long last formed an umbrella political group and a command structure for their militias.
Their foreign backers are said to believe that the 22-month-long civil war has now reached a tipping point and it has become imperative to offer help to the revolutionaries to enable them to make a final push against the regime.
The head of Britain’s armed forces, General Sir David Richards, hosted a confidential meeting in London a few weeks ago attended by the military chiefs of France, Turkey, Jordan, Qatar and the UAE, and a three-star American general, in which the strategy was discussed at length. Other UK government departments and their counterparts in allied states in the mission have also been holding extensive meetings on the issue. The commanders’ conference was held at the request of the Prime Minister, according to senior Whitehall sources. David Cameron is said to be determined that more should be done by Britain to bring to an end the bloody strife which has claimed 40,000 lives so far and made millions homeless.
There is also a growing belief among the Western backers of the opposition that intervention in some form is necessary now to influence the future political shape of Syria. Jihadist groups among the rebels, some like Jabhat al-Nusra linked to al- Qa’ida, have steadily gained in power and influence because of their access to weapons and money coming from the Gulf states putting more secular groups at a severe disadvantage.
The Obama administration is considering proscribing Al-Nusra as a terrorist organisation, making it illegal for American citizens to fund it and sending a warning message to Arab states not to back it.At the same time Western help will be directed at and strengthen the mode rate groups. The unified rebel command structure set up in Turkey, at the behest of the US and UK, has excluded the Islamist militias.
Britain, France and the US have agreed that none of their countries would have “boots on the ground” to help the rebels. The training camps can be set up in Turkey. However, the use of air and maritime force would, in itself, be highly controversial and likely to lead to charges that, as in Libya, the West is carrying out regime change by force.
Any such military action will have to take place without United Nations authorisation, with Russia and China highly unlikely to back a resolution after their experience over Libya where they agreed to a “no-fly zone”.
The plan will also draw accusations that the decision to station Nato Patriot missile defence systems at the Syrian border, at the request of Turkey, was, in reality, to camouflage intervention. The US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Foreign Secretary William Hague and the alliance’s Secretary-General, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, had all insisted at a meeting in Brussels last week that the deployment was a purely defensive measure.
***Note: I had copied this bit from an article, then accidentally closed the page, and found it again on a different page, so the layout may be a bit different.
I'd say they're getting pretty serious when we hear language like that; same narrative as Libya, especially the "...now reached a tipping point and it has become imperative to offer help to the revolutionaries to enable them to make a final push against the regime...", and no doubt why they made the move to declare some of the islamists terrorists, so "they must move now before things really get out of hand...".
Any time now, I think.
Originally posted by Alternative4u
..... what will happen if Russia & Iran (both in Syria) decide to take the bull by the horns and confront us? do we run, or do we just curl our toes up?
Originally posted by Alternative4u
I am getting reports of massive troop movements tonight, even Missiles being moved from mainland Russia to Polish borders and other area's of Russia, they wont let Syria die I feel, wow I hope Cameron know what he's doing for all our sakes.