Originally posted by MrInquisitive
As for civilization owing a lot to Isaac Newton, didn't Newton, in turn, owe a lot to pagans, such as the ancient/classical Greeks who developed math
and geometry? Wasn't most all of agriculture developed by pagans/heathens, so we owe a great debt to them.
Hitler was a Christian and was raised a Catholic. And we owe so much to the Spanish inquisition -- particularly Jews do. Not.
Isaac Newton and all other mathematicians do
owe a debt to the Church. After St. Patrick brought Catholicism to Ireland, and the Church taught
them to write, the Irish soaked up as much knowledge as they could. They had books shipped in from all over, and copied them. If it weren't for the
Irish and the Catholic Church, we wouldn't have any of the ancient texts that we do today.
A man named Fr. Roger Bacon was the one who saved the Aristotelian texts from being destroyed, and brought them into the the universities. He also was
the one who brought the teachings of the Muslim mathematicians over to Europe, as well, and insisted that those be taught in universities.
Hitler was told by the Church that he couldn't become a priest, and that's why he ended up becoming a dictator. The Church knew
he was bad
stock. Many argue that the Church sided with Hitler, but Hitler wanted to bury the Church. He had a plan to arrest and kill the Pope, but one of
Hitler's advisers told him that would be stupid, since the entirety of the Church would rise up against him. Pope Pius XII had tens of thousands of
Jewish people hiding in the Vatican. He did everything he could to save them. Catholics from all over took them into their homes to protect them.
The Inquisition was established to try to clear the names of people who were falsely accused of heresy. However, those who were convicted were not
punished by the Church. The convicted were handed over to local authorities for their
penal system. In fact, people preferred
ecclesiastical courts to the secular court system, which had less safeguards for them. Evidence has been found that people purposely blasphemed in the
secular courts to get their trial moved to the ecclesiastical courts. Furthermore, the Inquisition laid the basis for current court systems: summoning
and interrogation of witnesses, investigation of accusations, and acceptance of evidence from the accused, instead of waiting for witnesses to come
forward after a formal accusation, and reliance solely on witness testimony. Pope Boniface VIII required that all witnesses be named to the accused.
Pope Innocent III forbade help to the accused, but this was ignored, and counsel was generally provided.
Originally posted by milominderbinder
The period of time known as "The Dark Ages" refers to the time AFTER the collapse of the PAGAN Roman Empire and DIRECTLY
COINCIDES WITH THE ADVENT AND SPREAD OF ORGANIZED CHRISTIANITY.
The Dark Ages ENDED in the 15th century when the RENAISSANCE took hold and people, governments, and scholars MOVED
AWAY FROM the teachings of the church and decided it was time to stop burning scientists at the stake for practicing "sorcery"...although it
should still be noted that non-scientists continued to be roasted alive for another three hundred years or so whenever crops failed, somebody's pig
died, or anything at all happened that the semi-literate-at-best peasants couldn't wrap their heads around.
The Dark Ages ended in the tenth
century with the Middle Ages
, during which time the Catholic Church founded
over 80 universities to spread education and knowledge. Subjects taught include mathematics, science, engineering, design, medicine, nursing, music,
art, etc. Take a look at the European cathedrals and artwork, and then come back and tell me just how unlearned those people were.
A comprehensive welfare system was established, which was based on parishes, guilds and monasteries. They cared for the old, the ill, and the poor.
Like welfare for the poor, ill, and old? Thank the Church.
During the Middle Ages was when the Charter of Liberties, and later the Magna Carta were signed, the latter at the behest of the barons after Fr.
Stephen Langton read the former at a council meeting, reminding them of their rights. Without the Magna Carta, we wouldn't have democracy.