Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by Akragon
Good to see you again. You're always thought provoking and that's valuable here.
I don't know if I want to commit to a lot of time to this thread, but I was drawn in by your use of "logical problem."
If I understand you, your argument is:
Pain is purely physical.
There is pain in Hell,
There are no physical bodies in Hell.
Therefore, there is no Hell.
Does that sound like a solid argument to you? Isn't it just as likely that the premise "Pain is purely physical" is flawed? As you pointed out, "torment" is often the word used. Certainly, our life experiences teach us that much torment is not physical. Attend a death bed, or a funeral, or receive divorce papers, or have your house burn down, or even have your pants split open at the High School prom. There is no physical pain there, but there is certainly torment.
Realizing that you have to spend eternity without the source of life, love, and goodness. Is that not torment?
Hello my friend...
This topic was inspired by another thread where the OP ranted about another Christian telling him "he was going to burn in hell"
Now of course there is pain that is emotional... but "burning" in hell would require a physical body to experience said burning...
On the other hand... Spending "eternity without the source of life, love, and goodness" may be torment... but i do not believe in a God that would abandon his children in any case... That would be the OT God... who is not the one true God
IF the son of God said this...
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.
How much more does his Father love us?