Hi all I was looking through my newsletter that I get from Globalspec and they have an article about a UK company that extracts carbon dioxide from the air combines it with hydrogen and creates a synthetic fuel to be used in a gasoline fuel reactor ,I think the project is still in early days but it is a mind blowing achievement and I hope it gets off the ground..Company is called Air Fuel Synthesis

TextCompany Turns Air into Fuel Obtaining fuel from thin air would be a true feat of renewable energy engineering. It's a bit more complicated than that, but a small company in the UK is manufacturing synthetic gasoline from air. Carbon dioxide extracted from air is mixed with hydrogen from an electrolysis process, forming a tank-ready fuel in a gasoline fuel reactor. Phys.org reports that the pilot system has already produced synthetic fuel, and that the company plans a 1 tpd capacity facility by 2014. If process power is sourced from wind, tidal, or solar energy systems, the fuel will be virtually carbon-neutral. More from Alternative & Renewable Energy…

Well hope this thread gets the juices flowing let me know what you think thanks.

I would love to see new sources of energy be discovered (if they haven't been already), but I would think any new source of energy is going to have to be profitable for the governments or else they will not let it see the light of day.

Originally posted by SirMike
The math (and by extension the economics) just don’t cut it.

Since there's not an infinite supply of oil, even if the economics don't work out immediately, at some point, they will. Re-run the numbers with oil at higher prices. It may take some time to get there, but it will.

sounds to me it just another method of creating hho gas ? kinda like how people make hydrogen generators i think correct me if im wrong, but i dont see the point of mixing pure hydrogen with carbon ?? hydrogen alone could be used as a fuel ?

Originally posted by MrDarkPhoenix
sounds to me it just another method of creating hho gas ? kinda like how people make hydrogen generators i think correct me if im wrong, but i dont see the point of mixing pure hydrogen with carbon ?? hydrogen alone could be used as a fuel ?

"HHO Gas" is just an ignorant take on hydrolysis, which has been around for over a century. The idea of this has multiple benefits. 1 being that solar energy collection is sometimes much more efficient in places that are not accessible or scarcely populated. If there is a solar array in the desert, the transportation of electrical load over long distances makes it nearly infeasible. Although, there are operations in the emirates that are using HVDC to get around this, typical AC infrastructure cannot handle load transfer over long distance without losing a major amount of energy in the form of heat. The normal grid will see a 4-12% loss getting to consumers homes. (Based off recollection) So by being able to store it in a easily handled form of fuel, such as this, it has many benefits. Especially if the energy loss in hydrolysis and the subsequent reaction, is made up by the added energy collection of a solar array in places normally considered unfeasible (due to load transfer).

2, would be that hydrogen is horrible to store, transfer, and in most cases use. Although, 2 is kind of eliminated by the simple fact that hydrogen has no economically sustainable method of synthesis right now. It's simply used in pet projects by people who think it somehow is going to usher in a 'green' economy, while making little practical sense.

i did not mean to sound ignorant, i was remembering information i seen on a energy documentary i seen online

As to the fuel not being able to keep up with the demand and it not being viable people will just have to get rid of their massive gas guzzlers that drink the stuff by the gallon and just drive smaller cars the days of the v8 are long gone in my opinion.