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Christian Murdered by Muslim After Attempting to Convert their Daughter to Islam

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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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Devout Christian murdered by Muslim ex-boyfriend after row over converting their daughter to Islam Read


www.dailymail.co.uk...


A Muslim man was jailed for life today for stabbing his devout Christian ex-girlfriend 13 times after they split following bitter rows about him wanting their young daughter to convert to Islam.

Esther Arogundade, 32, was attacked by kitchen porter Shola Adebiyi in her own home after she began a relationship with another man.

Adebiyi also drank oven cleaner in an attempt to kill himself and phoned Esther's new lover to say he would never see her again before confessing to the killing to a friend.

Police broke into the mother-of-two's home in Salford, Greater Manchester, and found KFC worker Esther lying dead on the kitchen floor with multiple stab wounds to her back and front.

Adebiyi was jailed at Manchester Crown Court for a minimum of 20-and-a-half years after admitting killing her.

The court heard how Esther began dating Adebiyi in 2007 and that they later had a daughter now aged two but split up last year after a series of rows.

Rob Hall prosecuting said: 'These arguments were ignited by differences of opinion over the religion of their daughter - the defendant wanted her to convert from Christian to Islam, but Esther was a church goer.

While visiting family in Africa Mr Alabi received a sinister phone call from Adebiyi, claiming he would be killed if he returned to the UK.

On June 26, Adebiyi cleared out his locker at work at a conference centre in Manchester then left armed with a large kitchen knife and waited for Esther and their daughter to come home.




posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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So here is another story how mixing religious backgrounds DOES NOT WORK.

This is an extreme case, which shows it from an Islamic extremist point of view.

How often do you hear stories about devoted Christians killing Muslims for not converting to Christianity? I haven't heard of that before.

Is this a sign for things to come about Islam rising to power? Or is this just one isolated incident where a person was over the hill in his head and pretty much had a psychological disorder?

I would argue for the latter, but who knows which Islam study group he was part of.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:41 PM
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This obviously is false flag stabbing, Islam is a religion of peace.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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there are nut jobs in all religions.
Athiests have also been known to kill.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:58 PM
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This a crime of passion. I don't see how religion comes into play here. It didn't stand between them when they were making a baby. The violence erupted when the woman began seeing another man, according to the article.

Domestic violence doesn't have a religion.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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Should we close our eyes and deny the facts when things goes bad.. see no evil ? Big book says denying wrongdoings its also a sin.
Religion was part of this as what religion little girl should have also the relationship gone sour.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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I tend to agree with the OP

People who are actually religious shouldnt have children with people of other religions without a serious discussion beforehand.
Im guessing since they broke up due to a difference of opinion regarding their daughters religion there was no discussion prior to her being born.

I consider myself culturally Christian in that I celebrate Xmas and easter but not a practicing one, Ive dated quite a few Muslim women who fit into the same catergory, the celebrate Ramadan but dont wear the headscarf or go to mosque or anything like that. Never had any issues

Religious nuts should stick with other nuts of their own religion



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 02:14 PM
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Not at all. But domestic violence doesn't need religion, race, income class or education to ruin lives and families. I speak from experience.

My ex husband was a Hispanic Catholic, he beat me while pregnant because I was craving beans. "No wife of his was going to eat beans!" He kept kicking me in the belly, trying to kill our unborn daughter.

I had to leave the continent to escape his constant terror.

I've seen high school teenagers, who thought they were in love, acting out violent behavior toward on another, imitating their parents, practicing for real life.

It's sensational to turn this story into a Muslim vs Christian problem. It's a bigger problem than that.
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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So , he is a mad man who stabbed a lady 13 times.

Does it matter what he believes ?

Or you used it to attract people to this thread ?



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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I have a lot of things I would like to say on this since my father is an arab/muslim and my mother is a white/southern baptist, but I have too much of my life invested in this topic and I think some things that I don't want to come out, will. I will say this. I do agree that no person that feels strongly about their religion should marry anyone of another religion. It causes way too many problems, not just for them, it is way worse for the offspring. Immagine being told everyday that you're going to hell if you do not believe that jesus is the son of god/is god by your mother, and you're father telling you, you're going to hell if you do not believe that there is One and only God, Allah and Mohammed is his prophet. Guess what, They turned me into an atheist.
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 02:38 PM
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There are domestic issues you cannot turn into religious matter you are right and your example how terrible it do sound is more like a mental issue of narcissim of your ex and has nothing to do with this issue.

The problem is with these mixed marriages is eduacation and how these people are raised.

A girl from my highschool class married a maroccoan man they had two babies and she escaped back to her own country because of domestic abuse which was called training her to follow muslim ethics, she felt she had no rights or anything to say about family issues, her husband was not well eduacated but very "devoted" muslim. And i also know a family where woman is Christian and man is a Muslim ( well eduacted and university professor ) and they live in France, they have two teenage girls and they made an agreement that they do not push any religious beliefs to their daughters and they can make their own mind. They are happily married.

So basicly background is a big issue, how these people are raised in beginning with, is it tolerance or strict denial.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by dollukka
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There are domestic issues you cannot turn into religious matter you are right and your example how terrible it do sound is more like a mental issue of narcissim of your ex and has nothing to do with this issue.

The problem is with these mixed marriages is eduacation and how these people are raised.

So basicly background is a big issue, how these people are raised in beginning with, is it tolerance or strict denial.


Education and background are key I would agree with you on that. Aside from that you cannot use religion as an excuse to do something extreme.

Unfortunately though, society and government think otherwise.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by CincinnatiReds
This obviously is false flag stabbing, Islam is a religion of peace.


And can you cite your source which states this EXACTLY please so that we may follow your argument?



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by geldib
I have a lot of things I would like to say on this since my father is an arab/muslim and my mother is a white/southern baptist, but I have too much of my life invested in this topic and I think some things that I don't want to come out, will. I will say this. I do agree that no person that feels strongly about their religion should marry anyone of another religion. It causes way too many problems, not just for them, it is way worse for the offspring. Immagine being told everyday that you're going to hell if you do not believe that jesus is the son of god/is god by your mother, and you're father telling you, you're going to hell if you do not believe that there is One and only God, Allah and Mohammed is his prophet. Guess what, They turned me into an atheist.
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Oh man - what a tough road. But I'm glad that you found an alternate path that gives you what you need, whether that is comfort or answers. On the bright side, you received a close-up education on what many of us take years to observe and integrate into our understanding of the world. Have gratitude for that.






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