reply to post by marg6043
nothing will get us out of this mess!!!
not taxing the rich, not cutting the entitlements, nothing!!!
which just peeves me off more!!
the politcal players just keep playing on and on, if we can do this, or if we can do that....
and all the while...
in the back rooms, they are spending more and more money of crap that very few of us here on these boards would find useful in our personal lives in
any manner shape or form!!!
the problem isn't us, be it liberals or conservatives, the problem is the corrupt political leaders and those who bought them off...
but, let me ask you something....
the amount of bush's wars plus those lovely bailouts for the financial systems.....please include the ones that aren't that well know and don't
tell me that much of it was paid off, having the fed funnel money to them so they can pay it off, isn't paying it off, it's more like, that hidden
tax called inflation was increase to give them the money to pay it off....well, those two items combined about equals the debt
so, well, just who should be taxes to pay it off??
should our servicemen and women come home after long tours in hellholes to find the price of everything so much more, their veterns benefits not what
they expected, and more and more taxes, less and less services??
should those who are about to go into retirement, who may have done everything right, had their iras, paid their mortgages all along, possibly even
own their houses now, worked everydays for over 40 years, paid and social security only to find their iras, their homes and their other investments
not worth as much as they should be because of some nice big scam that an alliance between bankers and gov't officials concocted, well... should they
be the ones paying?? what about those who actually managed to reap the rewards of the scam...who by the way....are members of those we can truly call
rich!! just why shouldn't they have to give back some of that profit to pull the country out now???
no, taxing the rich isn't the answer, but there is one thing for sure...
there is no answer is everyone isn't sharing in the cost!!!
and that is where the republicans fail I am afraid....their are so intent on protecting those rich people from any consequences of their actions,
acting like, just taking it from the poorer classes will work....
how can it work???? ya, take the money from the future grannies, okay...anyone out there actually look into just what those grannies are doing with
their time?? they are watching their grandkids so mommy and daddy can work...without pay in most cases... they are volunteering in positions that
once well, were actually once paid posititons! the poor, many of whom are working, ya, take away their food stamps...just what are you gonna have??
sick hungry employees?? disgruntled workers demanding higher pay?? more workers heading into the workforce wanting those part time jobs to go along
with their full time job?? and yes, let's put all those single moms to work....even though it quite possible that the amount is costs to put their
child into a child care setting per hour is more than she can earn!!!!
unless you are willing to allow the poor, the young, the elderly to just lie in the streets and die!!! you really can't expect them to contribute
that much....they have nothing to give! they are barely getting by!!
the middle class is quickly falling into the the "poor" and that leaves just one group left!
the one that some seem to think should be immune to paying anything!
I am just saying....
if the old, the poor, the youngest, the vets, ect can be expected to make a few sacrifices, well, those the did reap the rewards of the heist to begin
with sure the heck should be expect to!!! at least increase the capital gains tax...increase the ceiling for social security payments. at least try
to give the impression of fairness to the scam!! as far as obamacare, most of us knew it was a farce to begin with, unless they actually do something
to bring the costs of care down, well, nothing is gonna work!! this nation pays more for healthcare than every other nation on earth even without
obamacare. I'm pretty sure that there are viable ways to bring that cost down to a managable level if the one's pulling the strings were to lay
their greed aside and chose that path. they're not, thus, the obamacare fiasco!