Do we live in a computer simulation? researchers say idea can be tested!

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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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I look at it this way, if we are in a virtual world (which I believe we are) It always was and always will be simulated. I don't believe that a physical world ever existed, this would be the best explanation, the only thing that exists is conciousness and it has no physical form that is why religiong says God is undefineable and never had a physical form.




posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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I am pretty sure energy is everywhere we just don't know how to see it or use it yet and if that is true and Tesla was right the amount of power needed to run the simulation would be irrelevant if power was EVERYWHERE. The sun alone has energy we can't even fathom and if a species so advanced could create the simulation they would probably know how to tap into a suns energy or 10,000 other types we have know idea about.

Also... what about quantum computing because in theory the amount of energy needed would be vastly lowered by the use of this type of technology. Plus seeing how electons once entangled react instantanously regardless of distance the energy needing to send such info would also be in void.
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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yes thats one good step and another point that seperates us from insects and other animals is that we have the capability to research for clues. But like everything else it always takes time to reach our goals.

oh and a question for you, if one day we reach the point of comprehending our origins and singularity do you think that after that we would stop searching or we will think " whats beyond this singularity?" "what else is there?" and once again search for whats beyond our beyond making it an infinite search for infinity..
whoa!
what am i thinking right?



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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Simulations do imply Creators. It implies Host Universe. It implies we're in the dreamscape, and there is a "real word" to wake up to, or plane. However, in infinity, I was given this very uncomfortable vision of levels and grades, so that the "real world" was also a simulated one, and those Higher Ups also working towards growth and also at one point steps out of the screen into a new platform, and this can go on and on and on. Prime Creator(s) is always finding Herself/HimselfThemselves to be a child(ren) of yet another Creation.
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Then what is this simulation a simulation of?



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:27 PM
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I think the best approach is one step at a time, or we're likely to go nuts.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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My belief is that its a reflection and a simulation. So before our input, or what we make of it, it was rather beautiful. And this is a giant playpen for growing up and getting it right, Love/Peace/Integrity.

I'm going to add what I just read elsewhere online. Someone feeling earth was a copy, and sort of parred down at that, cut off from everything else and he felt people were like clones and actually was disconnected from humanity itself, not realizing how special and wonderful everyone and every child truly is, and how much he loves them all on the other side.

Then someone responded that this was true, and that out of Love For Others he had come in. And it was up to him to show the way, to those around, who risked being reduced in their consciousness by the routines here, and the struggles.
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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What I do know about this is, That the amount of memories stored said to be much greater then the capacity to store these thoughts in your head.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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That I agree with , if its some kind of simulation it has to be above our comprehension



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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Its looks like the pieces of the puzzle seem to be getting weirder as we people seem to unfold this whole mystery



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
The simulation theory defies all logic. We know for fact that we exist outside of computers. We know for fact that we invented computers. We know for fact that we invented simulations. We know for fact that computers cannot harbour life. We know for fact that computers cannot create life. We know that only man puts data into computers. We know only man can program and write simulations. So therefore, the world is a computer simulation? What?


I'm really not trying to be argumentative or dense with this reply. However, how could we possibly know this for a fact? How would it even be possible to prove these assertions? I'm not disputing that it is the position of mainstream science, but I can't quite figure out how it would be possible to prove or disprove what you're saying. Just like the simulation proponents can't yet prove it.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by BacknTime
maybe we do live in a simulation, but its nothing like the Sims, its something for more far advance beyond far far far advance that we can possibly think of because are brains are not capable and dont have the capacity to understand it. We may think of it as a Computer simulation but thats were we are wrong, it is far more intense something beyond computers and microchips something we cannot get our hands on, an unknown form of technology..So what will we discover next??It could be that in a few 100 years Computers will be ancient history because we invented something WAY far more better which society will find more use of in the future.

Its like if we just threw a high tech computer into an Ant hole and waited until they were capable of reverse engineering that computer.


I have to contend this; saying that it's something far advanced beyond what our minds can fathom, doesn't really make sense. I understand what you mean by technology advancing so that the next century will hold things we cannot conceive of now. However, I don't think computers are going to be "replaced" with something more advanced. A computer is a device, a machine, that carries out arithmetic or logical operations; they reflect our accumulated knowledge of mathematics & science; and as far as we know mathematics is a fundamental basis for understanding reality.

So 100 years from now, we'll naturally have FAR more powerful computers; but how exactly would computers become obsolete and replaced with a more advanced thing?? Magic?? We create machines because they augment our understanding of the universe, and have the potential to simulate it. I can't see us suddenly ditching computers, because even the most advanced ones would still be exactly that -- machines. That is unless you're proposing we tap into some unknown force that doesn't need anything other than our minds to operate. And even our brains are computers.

We're at the beginning of an age of quantum computers; and as IBM points out, a 250-bit quantum computer has more bits than there are particles in the universe. Quantum computers will be able to solve complex mathematical equations billions of times faster than anything we have now; and in some sense that's speed we can't conceive of just yet.

You're assuming that our universe is something far more intense and beyond computer simulations... well again, the simulation theory, is a theory. But it's a profound theory based on our understanding of technology & the translation of mathematics into physicality. If our knowledge of reality really changes that much in the next decades, that would make us replace 'computers', I'd be more than surprised.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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Things are starting to fall into place.

Now this song makes more sense.





posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by 0bserver1
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What I do know about this is, That the amount of memories stored said to be much greater then the capacity to store these thoughts in your head.

um the current model of the brain leaves an infinite(slight exaggeration, but you get the picture) amount of possible storage space. There's trillions of brain cells, and thousands of possible connections.....and then there's permutations for each connection. The amount of storage space in the brain(if it's really real) is unfathomable.
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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What I was told about this reality is this:
It's definitely real, it's just our definition of real is a little mistaken.
Because there are other realities. But they are all real.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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Yea I know about the double slit experiment.. Amazing stuff , If this all become true, how many Oscars do you think we get for the grand finale..?:



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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so, humanity has the ability to run a simulation and this is the best we can come up with.

death, war, famine, evil, poverty, disease, suffering and every other human sorrow you can think of.

what would be the point.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Malynn

Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
The simulation theory defies all logic. We know for fact that we exist outside of computers. We know for fact that we invented computers. We know for fact that we invented simulations. We know for fact that computers cannot harbour life. We know for fact that computers cannot create life. We know that only man puts data into computers. We know only man can program and write simulations. So therefore, the world is a computer simulation? What?


I'm really not trying to be argumentative or dense with this reply. However, how could we possibly know this for a fact? How would it even be possible to prove these assertions? I'm not disputing that it is the position of mainstream science, but I can't quite figure out how it would be possible to prove or disprove what you're saying. Just like the simulation proponents can't yet prove it.


How do we know man invented computers, simulations and all ideas in regards to computers?

Computers
Simulations

If man invented the computer and simulation, are we to say he invented reality as well?

Answer: common sense.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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Don't act so desperate. It's pathetic.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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When people die and claim to travel to heaven, are they actually traveling to the true universe outside of the simulation? You hear it all the time. A bright light at the end of a tunnel, a sense of euphoria, everyone you knew is there. What if this is the heaven that they speak of? What if heaven is just the real world?



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