What is this thing near the Sun? Is it a comet or meteorite? It hangs out for at least a week.

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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:02 PM
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Then you did your work well, but the original reply that I responded to far from bursted anyones bubble. I guess you missed my point? Not a big deal really. Yes, I have read every single post in this thread. Same old deal. ~$heopleNation




posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by jordanAKbramsen
I am almost completely convinced that it is "beetleguse" the brightest star in the sky. Why do i think its that?!
Because I have been watching this star for quite a while, imagine it orbiting behind the sun. By the time rises and sets 60 ish +20- times, the star will have made about one time around the sky.


I'm afraid not.

First, Betelgeuse is not the brightest star in the sky.

That would be Sirius. It's the brightest star in the sky.

Nor can the object be Betelgeuse because it's not "behind" the sun right now. Wrong time of the year for that. If you've been watching it for so long, you'd know that.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:34 PM
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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This object is not Mercury! In my humble opinion!



I am not very smart but I decided to try and see for my self if it were possible that this was any planet, Mercury or otherwise, I made a small video of the phases of Mercury during the time in question. Now I realize this is like comparing apples to oranges because I used stellarium.org... rather than S.O.H.O., or any other programs that have been referenced here...before this presentation...I looked at the video you posted and I do not agree with any of the people that insist this is Mercury or any other planet for that matter. It changes shape and I do not see how planets can exhibit the behavior that this object does...


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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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How Mercury looks from earth has nothing to do with how it is seen from the perspective of STEREO B.

You can see how far apart they are in this diagram:



STEREO B is the blue dot.
Earth is the green dot.

And the reason why planets look like they do is because of the way STEREO's coronagraph work, they are designed to take in as much light as possible and sometimes things like planets project too much light for the coronagraphs, so the pixels bleed and blur and distort.

It's all been explained more than once already in this thread.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
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This object is not Mercury! In my humble opinion!



I am not very smart but I decided to try and see for my self if it were possible that this was any planet, Mercury or otherwise, I made a small video of the phases of Mercury during the time in question.

Exactly how is that going to help? You're not going to see the phase of mercury at this image scale at this sort of exposure. All you'll see is an over-exposed spot, it won't tell you anything about the true shape or phase.


Now I realize this is like comparing apples to oranges because I used stellarium.org... rather than S.O.H.O., or any other programs that have been referenced here...before this presentation...I looked at the video you posted and I do not agree with any of the people that insist this is Mercury or any other planet for that matter.

Did you look at my videos? Just like my videos, you can't see the phase of Mercury, the image scale is far, far too wide. Even worse, the exposure is such that you can see the stars in the background, so it's far too long an exposure to properly expose Mercury and reveal the true shape anyway.


It changes shape and I do not see how planets can exhibit the behavior that this object does...

As I already showed, it doesn't actually change shape. The optics of the coronagraph produce a faint glow around the planet from internal reflections, diffraction, etc, which is enhanced and even blown-out when they process the images to reveal the faint solar corona. Here's a raw image containing Mercury with the histogram fitted to the maximum and minimum values in the image and no other processing:
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Mercury is just an indistinct unresolved point of light, it's effectively like a point-like light source and it tells you nothing about its true shape or size, just that it's too small to be resolved into a distinct shape at this image scale (which is about 7 and a half degrees wide, a telescope that would show Mercury's true shape and phase would generally have a field of view about half a degree wide at best - that would not be nearly wide enough to show the solar corona since the sun itself is half a degree wide). Here's what happens when I process this image in a manner similar to what NASA does in order to reveal the faint solar corona:
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Now you can clearly see the glow around the planet (indeed, due to the processing involved, it's no longer "faint" in appearance, it's generally brighter than the corona), and because this glow is caused by optical effects in the coronagraph, it will change depending on where it is in the field of view. Indeed, this happens EVERY time Mercury passes through the field of view. Previous examples:
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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I can just picture you stomping your feet and yelling at the screen how big a dope I am...


Oh well some just are not as smart as you are, don't care what any of you say, that object is not a planet.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 11:52 PM
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I firmly expected this reaction...not surprised, I already said I was comparing apples to oranges...NO WAY this is a planet.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 11:52 PM
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Well you'll get along like a house on fire with Manhater.

Would it help if I tell you when Mercury will make an appearance on STEREO B again?



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
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I firmly expected this reaction...not surprised, I already said I was comparing apples to oranges...NO WAY this is a planet.

It has nothing to do with the fact that you used stellarium, you don't seem to understand what I wrote at all; your basic premise is flawed. You wouldn't see the phase of Mercury anyway and the "shape" that you complain about is simply the effect of the optics producing a faint glow around Mercury. That's not even what it looks like in the raw image:
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Yes, it is a planet, specifically Mercury. That is RIGHT where Mercury SHOULD BE in the image, and that is EXACTLY what it looks like each time it passes through the image like that! Now please address the evidence I submitted to you. I took time to write a thoughtful response and I would appreciate you actually addressing the substance of what I said rather than simply stomping your feet and insisting it isn't so because you say so.
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posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
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don't care what any of you say,

That kind of says it all right there. You just proved what I said earlier and got yelled at for; some of you are immune to facts and evidence. You just admitted it. Your mind is closed, you don't care what the evidence shows, you've made up your mind even though you admit you're ignorant about the subject.


I can just picture you stomping your feet and yelling at the screen how big a dope I am...


Ironic, coming from someone who refuses to address the evidence presented to them and instead stomps their feet and says that they don't care what anyone says, it "isn't a planet" lalalala.
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posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 12:26 AM
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Well no matter how hard you scream it and how many times you tell me you are wrong.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 12:27 AM
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No it will not change my opinion, still not a planet.




S and F for you and your thread effort here, I wish you would find away to not have hate btw. Much love dear.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 12:29 AM
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And I didn't stomp my feet, I said you are wrong.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
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Well no matter how hard you scream it and how many times you tell me you are wrong.


Please address the evidence I submitted to you. I took time to write a thoughtful response and I would appreciate you actually addressing the substance of what I said rather than simply stomping your feet and insisting it isn't so because you say so. I have spent time today to carefully address every aspect of this claim and thoroughly show that it is, in fact, Mercury. You have done nothing to prove me wrong and simply stating I'm wrong because you say so means nothing. You complain about others stomping their feet and insisting that they're right, yet that is exactly all you are doing. I think there's a term for a person who is guilty of the thing they accuse others of being, but I'm not interested in addressing your personal character, I simply want a response to the substance of what I've presented to you.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
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And I didn't stomp my feet, I said you are wrong.

I didn't see Chad stomping his feet. Prove me wrong, address the substance of what I said, otherwise what I said stands.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 01:40 AM
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Now i don't feel so bad for freaking out about jupiter a while back.. Good to see I am not the only who has a derp moment.




posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
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I can just picture you stomping your feet and yelling at the screen how big a dope I am...


Oh well some just are not as smart as you are, don't care what any of you say, that object is not a planet.


Well, here are some dates for you this year, so you can see your spaceship again:


COR2
STEREO-A:
01/09/2013 17:00 - 01/12/2013 17:00 Pleiades L>R at extreme top.
01/21/2013 03:00 - 01/31/2013 12:00 Jupiter L>R
02/18/2013 00:00 - 02/24/2013 08:00 Mercury R>L Bright, Superior
03/12/2013 09:00 - 03/20/2013 00:00 M44 cluster L>R
04/02/2013 10:00 - 04/10/2013 08:00 Regulus L>R
04/30/2013 20:00 - 05/03/2013 05:00 Mercury L>R Extreme bottom. Dim, Inferior
05/24/2013 05:00 - 05/31/2013 05:00 Spica L>R
06/07/2013 17:00 - 06/15/2013 12:00 Saturn L>R
06/11/2013 09:00 - 06/25/2013 00:00 Mercury R>L Bright, Superior
08/15/2013 16:00 - 08/18/2013 04:00 Mercury L>R Dim, Inferior
10/21/2013 13:00 - 10/29/2013 12:00 Mercury R>L Bright, Superior
11/03/2013 16:00 - 12/08/2013 01:00 Venus R>L
11/28/2013 04:00 - 11/29/2013 15:00 C/2012 S1 (ISON) Comes in lower left, loops around sun, leaves upper left.
12/09/2013 16:00 - 12/14/2013 16:00 Mercury L>R Dim, Inferior
12/20/2013 09:00 - 12/23/2013 08:00 Pleiades L>R at extreme top.

COR2
STEREO-B:
02/01/2013 13:00 - 02/04/2013 21:00 Mercury L>R Extreme bottom. Dim, Inferior
02/28/2013 01:00 - 03/08/2013 09:00 Spica L>R
03/13/2013 01:00 - 03/26/2013 01:00 Mercury R>L Bright, Superior
03/13/2013 22:00 - 03/22/2013 09:00 Saturn R>L
05/17/2013 13:00 - 05/20/2013 15:00 Mercury L>R Dim, Inferior
05/27/2013 17:00 - 05/30/2013 04:00 Venus L>R Dim, Inferior. At top.
07/21/2013 18:00 - 07/30/2013 11:00 Mercury R>L Bright, Superior
09/05/2013 13:00 - 09/10/2013 03:00 Mercury L>R Dim, Inferior
10/11/2013 11:00 - 10/16/2013 16:00 Pleiades L>R at extreme top
11/05/2013 09:00 - 11/12/2013 06:00 Mercury R>L Bright, Superior
11/24/2013 22:00 - 12/08/2013 02:00 Jupiter L>R
11/26/2013 04:00 - 11/30/2013 02:00 C/2012 S1 (ISON) comes in lower left, leaves top.
12/25/2013 23:00 - 01/04/2014 17:00 M44 cluster L>R


Don't miss out on the aliens!



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 02:13 AM
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It changes shape and I do not see how planets can exhibit the behavior that this object does...

 


It's not changing shape. It's been tirelessly pointed out that the equipment aboard STEREO is used to measure the very faint corona, so when luminous objects like planets show up they overload the CCDs that are not meant to image them.

This post, from earlier in the thread has both Mercury and Venus in an older STEREO image.

Now, you claim planets do not look like this on STEREO. So, can you tell us then, is NASA lying about this image and the two planets being in it?


The planets Venus (left) and Mercury (right) as seen by the STEREO Behind COR2 telescope on October 13, 2009


Source





This object is not Mercury! In my humble opinion!


You are not humble.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 02:40 AM
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Why is the object moving in the opposite direction of the stars in the background?

The stars in the background are moving from left to right, the object enters from the right and moves to the left.





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