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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by Happy1
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If you have any kids in the US gobmint schools, asked them how they've been "preaching" this pagan religion and global warming crap.


Consider an earlier thread I did in Carbon being the mark of the beast. Carbon has 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons. Carbon will be traded as money and I believe the mark is connected to the UNESCO biosphere reserves.

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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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The Celestial Convergence? Isn't that like The National Enquire?



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by tidycat
The Celestial Convergence? Isn't that like The National Enquire?


Actually the majority of the threads started here usually have co-relating news items listed on the Celestial Convergence website. Yes, they are a little heavy on news items pertaining to transhumanism and illuminatti symbolism, but most of the alternative news stories discussed here can be found there as well.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by littled16

Originally posted by tidycat
The Celestial Convergence? Isn't that like The National Enquire?


Actually the majority of the threads started here usually have co-relating news items listed on the Celestial Convergence website. Yes, they are a little heavy on news items pertaining to transhumanism and illuminatti symbolism, but most of the alternative news stories discussed here can be found there as well.


The Celestial Convergence site is a blog that gathers items from all over the web. I don't care what you like to read, you will find it covered there. He does cover some of the new age psychobabble but he also has coverage of a lot of stuff the lamestream media should be covering but doesn't. His weekly volcano report is quite good and more than once I found out about recent earthquakes from his site first even though I keep a USGS window open all the time.

And even though some people knock the site I have yet to find more than the rare item that is not backed up by other more respected sites. Quite a lot of what I post on certain subjects I found first at Celestial Convergence and followed his link to the source story to post from it. He has one of the most complete coverages of a wide range of subjects that I know of.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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America will never stoop to allow itself into a one world government, sure we are manipulated from the inside and out, hence all the boondoggle wars weve engaged in. but the people know what sovereignty is, and the military and politicians take advantage of that through mind control and propaghanda, "yellow journal yellow journal set the pace, feel the rage." There are too many against world government in other countries as well. They just don't have the power that we americans have to control our own destinies.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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Has there been any justifications at all given by the Vatican to make the Pope's suggestions seem even slightly rational? Have they explained any of his strange quirks, as of late?

Or have they just decided to give the gaffer free reign to set a bad example for the moral and intellectual standards of his global flock?



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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Of course it was just a coincidence that Italy (Rome, The Vatican) backed the Third Reich.
Yes, because coincidences grow great when fertilized by the proper manure. (and this Pope stinks of sin)



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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I know it's taboo to think of a one world government but I think if we're ever to grow up and be mature enough to join the "intergalactic" community, assuming one even exists, then we're going to have to eventually unite under one banner and get out of the idea of competing with each other... it's that very thing that holds us down.

Technology gets repressed and made secret by company A so that company B doesn't dip into their profits..

Countries do the same.. China has the world's largest supply of rare earth elements so they can build their technology cheap and sell it to us, while also exporting those elements at a higher cost.

All of those principals don't drive us forward, they hold us back.. people might say competition encourages innovation, but it also in many ways stifles it.. What if I could improve on someone's existing work but they have it locked up in patents? ..competition discourages cooperation.. and cooperation I think would drive innovation and technology far more.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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I'm with you man. I'd like to see a Star Trek style world government.

In order to have that, however, we'd need to invent replicator technology and free engery. People's greed will forever impede any kind of peacefull utopia. If you can just replicate whatever you want, whenever you want for free -- it would completley set humankind free.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by miniatus
I know it's taboo to think of a one world government but I think if we're ever to grow up and be mature enough to join the "intergalactic" community, assuming one even exists, then we're going to have to eventually unite under one banner and get out of the idea of competing with each other... it's that very thing that holds us down.

Technology gets repressed and made secret by company A so that company B doesn't dip into their profits..

Countries do the same.. China has the world's largest supply of rare earth elements so they can build their technology cheap and sell it to us, while also exporting those elements at a higher cost.

All of those principals don't drive us forward, they hold us back.. people might say competition encourages innovation, but it also in many ways stifles it.. What if I could improve on someone's existing work but they have it locked up in patents? ..competition discourages cooperation.. and cooperation I think would drive innovation and technology far more.


We are destined to become a type 1 society without resources dumped on war machine and insane greed for materialistic things or die out.

Type 1 does not mean there cannot be regional differences in culture and what is accepted under the law. But people will be allowed to go to a place where they fit in instead of having to fit the system around them. Direct democracy where things are decided on as low level as possible without the pyramid of power in the form of poleticians or capitalism or any other form. The pyramid of power have always been an insane way of ruling and will never work and have never worked for long. Be it political systems calling themselves Republic/democracy or communism or the capitalistic system.

There will be not outside shown influence/revealing until we/humanity have shown we are ready to give up the old ways and evolve to the next stage. The quarantine stands.
edit on 11-12-2012 by LittleByLittle because: Spellchecking



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by jude11
Religion rules the World, creates wars and kills Millions of innocents. Now they want a One World Order? It's no surprise.

I believe they are just making a preemptive strike against the Muslims and their agenda of Global Sharia Law. Now we have to choose...Christian or Muslim...for the entire World.

This is tantamount to handing over the last freedoms and rights that we all have as individuals. Christians or not.

Maybe now some Christians will understand that the Church is the controller and are hell-Bent on dominance...or is it Muslim?

Sooner or later we all must choose.

Peace


Oh great, we get a choice between Pralines 'n Cream and Chocolate Pistachio or Maple Walnut (present corrupt puppet governments) flavored satanism (forgot to mention, they all come with nuts). I guess we're supposed to chose between the lesser of three evils? Any religion or political system that promotes constant death, division and turmoil does not deserve to exist. I say get rid of them all, along with their handlers. Disband them, take all their money and property away and force them to live on welfare and social assistance, that would be a good first hell for them all.

We will not have a viable world government until the greed, avarice and corruption are gone.

Cheers - Dave
edit on 12/11.2012 by bobs_uruncle because: (no reason given)
edit on 12/11.2012 by bobs_uruncle because: all come with nuts



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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We will not have a viable world government until the greed, avarice and corruption are gone.


True, and that means that we will never have a viable and benevolent world government as long as humans are running it. If you believe in the bible then the only chance we have is when Jesus returns after Armageddon for his 1000 year reign. If you don't believe in the bible then there is no hope for mankind to ever live in that kind of peace and prosperity.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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If I get on the phone and call for a pizza at the same time the Vatican gets on the blower and calls for World Goverenment . . . guess who's getting their's delivered first?

And I think you can roughly translate the Vatican's call for a 'world government' to . . .If you let us, we're going to rule your sorry arses for the rest of time because this big old group of guys here who've never been married, never seen the inside cover of Playboy and really haven't set a single foot in the real world ever . . . well, we know what's best for you so suck it up buttercup cuz we're the new boss . . . by the way . . . things will be pretty much the same as under the old boss except that little 'tithing' thing . . . that's new cuz you still gotta pay your taxes and we gotta eat.'.

Or something like that.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 12:37 PM
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You might find this an interesting read. It covers past and present popes and many predictions.

9. The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil. Traditionally, the olive branch has been associated with peace, but in both the Old and New Testaments it also serves as an emblem for the Jews. Putting the two together, some commentators believe that the reign of this pope will be a peaceful one during which the prophesied conversion of the Jews will take place. Several ex-Jews are said to be highly placed in the Catholic Church now. And, it is noteworthy that the previous Benedict (XV) was a pope obsessed with peace. Some others say, he will lead all faithful followers of the Lord Jesus to martyrdom and others say that he will tear down the walls of the Vatican, auctioning off all the objects within, in order to feed and enlighten those in the 3rd World who have not yet heard the Gospel of Christ.

Bible Probe Comment: The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.

LOOK at the above again. The next pope will have something to do with OLIVE --not necessarily or even probably a Benedictine.

Malachy DID NOT prophesize it would be a Benedictine! Someone in the Benedictine Order said they think the next pope will come from the Benedictines. GET THAT STRAIGHT!

Also, St Benedict prophesized: before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil. NOTHING was mentioned as leading as a pope!

10. PETER THE ROMAN - The 112th prophesy states: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End." The last pope may just cut Catholics loose from unity and the papacy, causing total disruption and confusion. See Saint Francis of Assissi's 13th century prophecy below. It is believed the next pope will

Will "The Glory of the Olive" be the last Pope?

The problem with the prophecies as listed in The Prophecies of St. Malachy, published by the Thomas A. Nelson, a Catholic Publishing House, is that Malachy's original works listed only 111 Popes, not 112, as given in the TAN version of the prophecies. Sometime between the first and subsequent printings the 112th, Petrus Romanus, was added to Malachy's prophecy. It was added after the 1820 publication of the prophecies.

On April 19th, 2005 Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected Pope Benedict XVI, the 265th Pope. The name Benedict means "blessing". Does this name automatically fulfill this prophecy?

April 21, 2005 - Mary Jo Anderson, a Catholic scholar and writer, says the Pope's choice of his name is not related to the prophecy of St. Malachy. Instead, she thinks the new pope chose his moniker as a reference to sixth-century St. Benedict and his quest to protect Rome from invading German pagans...claiming the pontiff hopes to protect the modern-day Church from destructive philosophies that originated in Germany. Source:WorldNetDaily

Of note: Benedict XV — who reigned from 1914 to 1922 — was a moderate following Pius X, who had implemented a sharp crackdown against doctrinal "modernism."

Will the papacy of this 78 year old pope be short lived? Is this the beginning of Tribulation? Will the next pope be the last pope? Will the next pope be a Roman and choose the name Peter? The Or, will Tribulation begin AFTER the Anti-Christ has shown himself as a person of peace and already made peace with Israel's enemies for seven years?

www.bibleprobe.com...



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by happykat39
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We will not have a viable world government until the greed, avarice and corruption are gone.


True, and that means that we will never have a viable and benevolent world government as long as humans are running it. If you believe in the bible then the only chance we have is when Jesus returns after Armageddon for his 1000 year reign. If you don't believe in the bible then there is no hope for mankind to ever live in that kind of peace and prosperity.


Since as far as I am concerned, we are living in a holographic 4 dimensional rendering of a point on 5 dimensional phase space "plain," that is actually probably a movie in the creator's or cosmic muffin's video library, I really don't care what happens as I have absolutely no control over outcomes. I do not subscribe to the theory or premise that we have free will. What will be will be, I just comment for the sake of commenting, since it is what this virtual meat suit (character in this particular movie) has been programmed to do from time to time. I fully expect that this "world" will go through a fascist or totalitarian world government phase for between 50 and 100 years. It's a bleak future for we players of characters at this point in the movie.

Popes are a joke along with every other religious leader and retarded political party or their handlers on this virtual planet. It would be nice if we really did have free will, but I just can't rationalize the theory of free will with quantum theory, emperical data and observation. In a virtual world there are only cycles. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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It takes the Pope to suggest trading in over 200 little corrupt systems and people for one BIG corrupt system with near unthinkably powerful people in the leadership of it and have anyone actually consider it a good idea.
Naww.. this isn't remotely like the NWO run by the powers that be, eh?

You know, if this wasn't actually foretold to happen in just about this way, from this very person...as I seem to recall....it would be funnier. However, the humor really is there considering how many seem to entirely miss the fact that the Pope calling for or supporting the establishment of a grand global community is among those little things we're to be watching for in the larger scheme of prophecy events. Ding!

(Checks off another box down the list of things to see happen...a list growing rather short)



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000


(Checks off another box down the list of things to see happen...a list growing rather short)







Well said !



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:41 PM
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Yeah the Papacy has been carnival barking about a one world government for a while now. It ain't gonna happen. I take that guy about as seriously as i'd take Mr. Rogers and his cardboard house.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by happykat39

True, and that means that we will never have a viable and benevolent world government as long as humans are running it. If you believe in the bible then the only chance we have is when Jesus returns after Armageddon for his 1000 year reign. If you don't believe in the bible then there is no hope for mankind to ever live in that kind of peace and prosperity.


Beautiful. simple and accurate.

Mankind has prooven beyond the shadow of a doubt, they are incapible of governing themselves peacefully, that is the full witness of the age of mankinds self rule, soon to end.

God Bless,



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by GoalPoster
If I get on the phone and call for a pizza at the same time the Vatican gets on the blower and calls for World Goverenment . . . guess who's getting their's delivered first?

And I think you can roughly translate the Vatican's call for a 'world government' to . . .If you let us, we're going to rule your sorry arses for the rest of time because this big old group of guys here who've never been married, never seen the inside cover of Playboy and really haven't set a single foot in the real world ever . . . well, we know what's best for you so suck it up buttercup cuz we're the new boss . . . by the way . . . things will be pretty much the same as under the old boss except that little 'tithing' thing . . . that's new cuz you still gotta pay your taxes and we gotta eat.'.

Or something like that.


I have to disagree with you on one point. A lot of them have probably seen the inside of playboy, and worse in the age of internet porn. Sexual urges don't just disappear when you put on a black suit with a white collar. And repressing sexuality can be the equivalent of plugging the vent on a pressure cooker; somethings gotta blow.





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