Customers Called 'Fat Girls' on Restaurant Bill

Lemmie check.

Waiter / Waitress Job Description....

* Check patrons' identification in order to ensure that they meet minimum age requirements for consumption of alcoholic beverages.
* Check with customers to ensure that they are enjoying their meals and take action to correct any problems.
* Escort customers to their tables.
* Explain how various menu items are prepared, describing ingredients and cooking methods.
* Inform customers of daily specials.
* Prepare checks that itemize and total meal costs and sales taxes.
* Present menus to patrons and answer questions about menu items, making recommendations upon request.
* Remove dishes and glasses from tables or counters, and take them to kitchen for cleaning.
* Serve food and/or beverages to patrons; prepare and serve specialty dishes at tables as required.
* Stock service areas with supplies such as coffee, food, tableware, and linens.

Nope, doesn't see anything about them expressing their opinions, threatening the business or insulting the patrons.

Well I'm sorry I'm a nice person, and I hope these girls now have someone who can help them, the same as I would. Obviously you wouldn't be interested in helping your friend lose weight, but pat them on the back and hand them a tissue. People like you who just like to brush the problems of the world under the carpet will start to trip over soon.

reply to post by DAZ21


Dude none of your posts in this thread made you seem like a nice person and most in fact gave the opposite impression.

Do you have asbergers or are you just completely clueless?

You can help and advise people without insulting them and hearing something like that from a friend is worlds away from having a waiter put it on a bill

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by DAZ21
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

 

If they were related or friends of mine, of course I would feel for them. But I would help them and do all I could to help them shed the weight, if that is what they truely wanted.

And if they didn't want would you tease and harass them until they become another you?

Of course not. But if they didn't want to lose the weight, when they run into health complications I wouldn't give them anymore sympathy.

Where do you cross the line, seriously? You can't feel sorry for someone who doesn't want to help themselves.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Lemmie check.

Waiter / Waitress Job Description....

* Check patrons' identification in order to ensure that they meet minimum age requirements for consumption of alcoholic beverages.
* Check with customers to ensure that they are enjoying their meals and take action to correct any problems.
* Escort customers to their tables.
* Explain how various menu items are prepared, describing ingredients and cooking methods.
* Inform customers of daily specials.
* Prepare checks that itemize and total meal costs and sales taxes.
* Present menus to patrons and answer questions about menu items, making recommendations upon request.
* Remove dishes and glasses from tables or counters, and take them to kitchen for cleaning.
* Serve food and/or beverages to patrons; prepare and serve specialty dishes at tables as required.
* Stock service areas with supplies such as coffee, food, tableware, and linens.

Nope, doesn't see anything about them expressing their opinions, threatening the business or insulting the patrons.

Some situations in Human Life and human relations is not just writen words.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Like i said, my point is right over your head.

its okay to insult people, so long as it isnt happening to you, huh

naah Im a part-time troll homie
I love oppurtunities to lash back,I find it fun.Truely.
Especially when somebody legitimately lashes back at me,because then I know where to improve.
Only reason Im not lashing out as bad is because I respect ATS more than other sites so I tend to hold back.
nice effort though

reply to post by DAZ21

They aren't looking for sympathy. They're looking for some BASIC RESPECT.

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff

Well I'm sorry I'm a nice person, and I hope these girls now have someone who can help them, the same as I would. Obviously you wouldn't be interested in helping your friend lose weight, but pat them on the back and hand them a tissue. People like you who just like to brush the problems of the world under the carpet will start to trip over soon.

reply to post by DAZ21

 

Dude none of your posts in this thread made you seem like a nice person and most in fact gave the opposite impression.

Do you have asbergers or are you just completely clueless?

You can help and advise people without insulting them and hearing something like that from a friend is worlds away from having a waiter put it on a bill

Wow... Is all I can say.

You're as bad as the waiter you are so against. What have you got against people with asbergers?

You've literally just done the same thing you claim you're against.

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

Also, I can see you overlooked the part of my post that said 'unless you have a medical condition'. If you want to attack my position, that's fine. But do it honestly, please and thanks.

I am saying YOU and no one who meets you KNOWS what condition nor the cause of any of your conditions or decisions, and it is NOT any of your business!

I think the waiter was completely out of line and should not have put anything on the receipt and by causing a PR problem for the restaurant was rightfully fired.

That being said I am sick of my fat in-laws that break my guest room toilet off the anchors every year and leave without saying a word. Sadly they don't have an excuse like an over active thyroid or pituitary gland, or debilitating injury...no they only have fast food, soda, a sedentary lifestyle and denial to blame.

Originally posted by xavi1000
Some situations in Human Life and human relations is not just writen words.

It's called personal responsibility, having ethics, morals, common sense, empathy, sympathy and simply being respectful of others.

More and more people these days are lacking all the above.

Also, If I were a business owner and the employee failed to follow the agreed to job description then they can pick up their pink slip.

I think everyone should just agree to disagree. I mean, I posted a link to research done to show that the baby boomer generation is expected to outlive their children. In my eyes this is beyond just simply insulting someone who is 'fat'. This is an issue that is detrimental to the very survival of our society and something NEEDS to be done about it. In my view, if you do not have a medical condition that prevents you from exercising, you NEED to exercise, if you are overweight. Pretty straight forward really. I mean, the law keeps restricting the places I can smoke my cigarettes while allowing McDonalds restaurants to go up on every corner. Its disgusting.

But I also understand some people just don't see things how air do. So its whatever.

Silly to argue about though. It won't change. This country is far too PC.

Now I'm trying to remember what we called old women with seperate checks that would leave a quarter each. Not to mention black folk that would treat you bad and tell ya right off the get go your not getting a tip.

Originally posted by DAZ21

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff

Originally posted by DAZ21
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

 

If they were related or friends of mine, of course I would feel for them. But I would help them and do all I could to help them shed the weight, if that is what they truely wanted.

Just as I thought

If you knew them and it affected you in some way it would be different. coz you dont know them you cant see any issue or feel any sympathy.

You are a very sad little person in my opinion.

Not gonna waste any more time responding to you on this topic

Well I'm sorry I'm a nice person, and I hope these girls now have someone who can help them, the same as I would.

Obviously you wouldn't be interested in helping your friend lose weight, but pat them on the back and hand them a tissue.

People like you who just like to brush the problems of the world under the carpet will start to trip over soon.

edit on 10-12-2012 by DAZ21 because: (no reason given)

we are not talking about a friend though are we...we are talking about a stranger.

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by jiggerj

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff


No one has the right to make other people feel bad and thats the point you all seem to be missing

Now THAT is not fair. If these girls get upset it should be that THEY don't like the idea of being overweight and not because someone stated the obvious about them.

An insult is only an insult when the tone is insulting. The waiter used the description of fat only to easily remember which table the food went to. If he stood at the table and said, "Gawd, you people are fat!", THAT would've been an insult.

Yeah hard to remember table number "one" without the insult.

You know what, some people like being heavier and enjoy being who they are....does not mean they want a derogatory description given when they go out to eat!

??? I don't see where we are disagreeing? The only part I disagree with here is how can something be derogatory if someone likes it? And why is it always about weight? These things can be printed on my receipt and I'd have no problem with them at all"

Bald Guy
Bowlegged guy
Unkempt grey bearded guy
Old guy
Potbelly guy
Baggie pants guy
Smelly guy (if I farted or had just finished a nasty smelling job of some kind)

STOP! I am pulling a complete 180 here. My opinion was based on the hope that the waiter was merely stating the obvious in order to remember which table the girls were sitting, and in this way he could serve them better and faster. But, my next thought proved to me that I am dead wrong.

What if the girls were born deformed? Would it have been okay for the waiter to write the obvious: "Deformed Girls"?

NO!!! That would have been unforgivable. So, there's no excuse for writing Fat Girls on the slip.

reply to post by Char-Lee


Three obese women sitting at a table. Wonder what the odds are all of them have some debilitating disorder that disallows them from living an even semi-healthy lifestyle...
Whatever.

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by xavi1000
Some situations in Human Life and human relations is not just writen words.

It's called personal responsibility, having ethics, morals, common sense, empathy, sympathy and simply being respectful of others.

More and more people these days are lacking all the above.

Also, If I were a business owner and the employee failed to follow the agreed to job description then they can pick up their pink slip.

The more I read your posts in this thread, the clearer it becomes that you are driven purely by the money and your precious business, and less about the things you stated above.

You have stated over and over how you would put the business before the employee, that's a bit contradictory.

reply to post by JayinAR

Would people be outraged if he called them junkies?

Of course they would!!!!!!!!!

reply to post by Char-Lee


I'll call a junkie a junkie all day long. Not at work, mind you, but otherwise? Yeah, get off the damn smack.

reply to post by SLAYER69

Also, If I were a business owner and the employee failed to follow the agreed to job description then they can pick up their pink slip.

If I was a business owner I would be saying I need more people like those 3 retire in no time if people ate more.

But a stigma has been attached to "big people".

Im evil tho.

Originally posted by severdsoul
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

its offensive to own up to one's on self?

I have to fully disagree, i have my flaw's and i know it, and
i'd be the first one to point them out, same with the ex,
she was overweight, in the end about the size of these gals...
but over time and learning it was who she was and she was ok
with it, she learned to be her self, how and how ever she was and
not let the petty comments from others to effect her.

I see nothing offensive in owning up to reality.

I disagree, if you can own your own faults then not only will others
not effect you, but you have much more confidence and are secure
in who you are.

while i agree in this case it was not called for, its a totally different
setting, but in general i think more people need to learn to accept who
they are for their strengths and weaknesses, if you can refer to them as
that, and get past all the negative, which allows more energy to be used
and focused on doing good things.

Because i forced her to accept her self as she is, and be totally
comfortebul with who and how she was, she has since gone on to
use her training as a massage therapist (from the best school in the U.S.)
and now has 5 locations open in 3 states, and is looking to retire within
a few years, so because she is now secure in who she is, she will never have
to work again, and she is only 36.

edit on 10-12-2012 by severdsoul because: (no reason given)

So in your opinion being secure with your own flaws makes you feel every stranger has they right to put a label on you.
You feel people should do this when your "ex" went out to a meal with you....