Israeli Government Racist Ads About Americans on American TV Removed.

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by snapperski

 

LOL, I remember when these ads first came out!

I had authored a thread on the outrage from the Jews in the US over these ads.

I'd be surprised if there wasn't a thread you authored a form of honestly.

ATS ought to consider giving you your own forum. Or change the boarders to your skeletons. Or something to give credit to the time you spend linking stories here in some form.

Originally posted by votan
can someone please explain to me what a jew is and what an israeli is.

are they different?

are they a race?? ethnicity?? what ?? because i am completely confused about this.

is it a religious thing?? kinda like musliims/islamist

I have a very hard time understanding this... how is this racist against americans.. are americans a race now??

Fromm the title i get that Israel is a government or race and that americans are a race.

I would really like a clarification

because people are arguing and have no clue why

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don't be disingenuous, you know perfectly well why people are arguing and what these terms mean. what you are doing is affecting ignorance in order to dilute and deflect from the topic at hand, which is standard israeli hasbara. the good thing about the current effort is that your methods have become transparent to all of us. you'll have to try harder.

I really cant bear these people anymore, they consider themselves superior to others in the way people look towards animals ,they think they are a protected species and elevated above all other religions and peoples and they have the God given right to rule over us ,and dominate us ,and eliminate us at will ,and that killing us, is not a sin ,raping ,cheating, lying,terrorism,etc is all okay if its a Goyim, no wonder the worlds a mess with that kind of mentality ,then forcing multiculturalism en masse on other countries which destroys the Original cultures and peoples heritage, while they Demand Purity of race in their own country .I dont believe the holocaust lie that was rammed down our throats via Their media anymore ,or how hard done by they have been through history which was the result of their own doing anyway ,they can all jump in the lake as far as i am concerned

Originally posted by bronto
I really cant bear these people anymore, they consider themselves superior to others in the way people look towards animals ,they think they are a protected species and elevated above all other religions and peoples and they have the God given right to rule over us ,and dominate us ,and eliminate us at will ,and that killing us, is not a sin ,raping ,cheating, lying,terrorism,etc is all okay if its a Goyim, no wonder the worlds a mess with that kind of mentality ,then forcing multiculturalism en masse on other countries which destroys the Original cultures and peoples heritage, while they Demand Purity of race in their own country .I dont believe the holocaust lie that was rammed down our throats via Their media anymore ,or how hard done by they have been through history which was the result of their own doing anyway ,they can all jump in the lake as far as i am concerned

Spot on. Israeli's who believe they are above anyone are bigots plain and simple. The Talmud teaches these people that they are above everyone else, and anyone who is not a Jew is considered cattle. I'm so tired of these people. The part at the end where the two old farts look all concerned when the little girl says "Christmas" pisses me off. Typical behavior though.

It's ironic to me. A group of people who claim persecution and extermination from the Nazis (who claimed they were the master race), run around saying they are the "chosen people". Exactly what is the difference there?

To hell with Israel.

Oh and if someone is going to respond to me, save your breath. I am anti-Israeli 100%. You can call me any names you want. It doesn't bother me. The world is opening its eyes, and every time you snakes cry "Anti-Semite"... people are starting to see you for what you truly are.

reply to post by snapperski


It's irrelevant, but I noted that in one of the ads the guy is holding a magazine with a picture of the twin towers.

Originally posted by DerekJR321

Originally posted by bronto
I really cant bear these people anymore, they consider themselves superior to others in the way people look towards animals ,they think they are a protected species and elevated above all other religions and peoples and they have the God given right to rule over us ,and dominate us ,and eliminate us at will ,and that killing us, is not a sin ,raping ,cheating, lying,terrorism,etc is all okay if its a Goyim, no wonder the worlds a mess with that kind of mentality ,then forcing multiculturalism en masse on other countries which destroys the Original cultures and peoples heritage, while they Demand Purity of race in their own country .I dont believe the holocaust lie that was rammed down our throats via Their media anymore ,or how hard done by they have been through history which was the result of their own doing anyway ,they can all jump in the lake as far as i am concerned

Spot on. Israeli's who believe they are above anyone are bigots plain and simple. The Talmud teaches these people that they are above everyone else, and anyone who is not a Jew is considered cattle. I'm so tired of these people. The part at the end where the two old farts look all concerned when the little girl says "Christmas" pisses me off. Typical behavior though.

It's ironic to me. A group of people who claim persecution and extermination from the Nazis (who claimed they were the master race), run around saying they are the "chosen people". Exactly what is the difference there?

To hell with Israel.

Oh and if someone is going to respond to me, save your breath. I am anti-Israeli 100%. You can call me any names you want. It doesn't bother me. The world is opening its eyes, and every time you snakes cry "Anti-Semite"... people are starting to see you for what you truly are.

Exactly my thought.. Thank you .

reply to post by bcccl

That was one of the stranger posts I've read.

Yes, we all know, with the apparent exception of the OP, what the term "racist" means. Even after repeated requests for clarification, no one has provided any reason to believe those ads are racist. Are you willing to say that both America and Israel are separate, identifiable races? Do you claim these ads are "racist?" On what grounds?

Further, what evidence do you have to prove what the motives of any given poster are? None? Then please avoid attacking a member of this site.

His "transparent methods" and mine might be similar. When something doesn't make any sense, I ask about it.

reply to post by bronto

and that killing us, is not a sin ,raping ,cheating, lying,terrorism,etc is all okay if its a Goyim, no wonder the worlds a mess with that kind of mentality ,then forcing multiculturalism en masse on other countries which destroys the Original cultures and peoples heritage, while they Demand Purity of race in their own country .

I dont believe the holocaust lie that was rammed down our throats via Their media anymore ,or how hard done by they have been through history which was the result of their own doing anyway

Interesting charges. Would you supply some evidence for them? Would you look at the laws of Israel and tell us where those claims are found today? How about evidence that Israel is forcing other countries to adopt multi-culturalism?

You believe the Holocaust was a lie? Really? Please tell me I misread it, and you didn't mean that at all.

reply to post by DerekJR321

Did you really mean to call yourself a snake?

Oh and if someone is going to respond to me, save your breath. I am anti-Israeli 100%. You can call me any names you want. It doesn't bother me. The world is opening its eyes, and every time you snakes cry "Anti-Semite"... people are starting to see you for what you truly are.

You say that people who accuse someone of anti-semitism are snakes. I assume you mean that there is no such thing as anti-semitism, otherwise that would sometimes be an accurate description. After all that, you say you are anti-Israeli 100%. Sounds like you are proudly announcing to the world that you are an anti-semite, which, by your reasoning makes you a snake.

You might want to rephrase that paragraph.

Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by DerekJR321

 

Did you really mean to call yourself a snake?

Oh and if someone is going to respond to me, save your breath. I am anti-Israeli 100%. You can call me any names you want. It doesn't bother me. The world is opening its eyes, and every time you snakes cry "Anti-Semite"... people are starting to see you for what you truly are.

You say that people who accuse someone of anti-semitism are snakes. I assume you mean that there is no such thing as anti-semitism, otherwise that would sometimes be an accurate description. After all that, you say you are anti-Israeli 100%. Sounds like you are proudly announcing to the world that you are an anti-semite, which, by your reasoning makes you a snake.

You might want to rephrase that paragraph.

You may want to educate yourself and learn that Israeli's are not Semitic people. I am not against the true Semitic people of the region. I am against the Mossad. I am against the Israeli government. And I am against ANY person who believes their "religion" gives them some extra value over me. That goes for Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists and any other religion I forgot to mention.

And my reference to "snakes" was referring to the old "snake oil salesman" title once used to describe liars and thieves.

reply to post by DerekJR321

Dear DerekJR321,

Thank you for the clarification, I appreciate it.

You may want to educate yourself and learn that Israeli's are not Semitic people.

Do you mean by that that "Anti-semitism" has nothing at all to do with Israelis? That's not a position I've heard before, so I'm just checking.

Do you believe that Jews as a whole, not just their government, think that a Jew has extra value over a believer in some other faith?

Finally, thank you again for explaining to me that I had misinterpreted you. It's good for me to get straightened out when I go wrong.

With respect,
Charles1952

Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by DerekJR321

 

Dear DerekJR321,

Thank you for the clarification, I appreciate it.

You may want to educate yourself and learn that Israeli's are not Semitic people.

Do you mean by that that "Anti-semitism" has nothing at all to do with Israelis? That's not a position I've heard before, so I'm just checking.

Do you believe that Jews as a whole, not just their government, think that a Jew has extra value over a believer in some other faith?

Finally, thank you again for explaining to me that I had misinterpreted you. It's good for me to get straightened out when I go wrong.

With respect,
Charles1952

I believe that certain elements within the Jewish community adopted the term "Anti-Semite" and use it to their own advantage.

I don't really know how to answer your second question clearly. I don't believe Jews as a whole believe they are better than everyone. However, there are those that do. They believe they are the "chosen people" and anyone who is not Jewish is a "gentile" or the derogatory term "goyam". This is taught to them (at least in Israel it is) directly. They are taught that everyone who is a "gentile" is out to get them. To do them harm. To persecute them. I had a video that showed a bunch of Israeli students visiting a prison camp from WWII. These students were outright told by their Mossad escort that they must "watch their back". That everyone would be looking to do them harm. This is the mindset that I have a problem with. It is pure ignorance. I will look back through some of my older posts to see if I can find it.

I don't believe the Jewish faith and the Israeli government are one in the same. I believe the Israeli government works against the interest of Jews world wide. The "Zionists" movement is almost hijacking the Jewish faith, and using it for its own means. There have been many Jews and Jewish organizations that have spoken out against this very thing. The policies of Israel are doing more harm to the Jews than good.

And to clarify my last post. When I lash out and say I don't care about name calling, it is because first and foremost I don't. Secondly, I state that up front so that people can have a clear debate with me if they choose. I do not have any interest in name calling or trying to "one up" someone else. I have my views. Others have theirs. The reason I come to ATS is because I enjoy debating those views. So I try and remove the trolls if you will before I even begin. It certainly wasn't directed at you or anyone in particular. This happens to be a topic I am passionate about and I hate being dragged down by people who want to throw on the blinders and start saying "Jew Hater" or "Anti-Semite"...

This isn't racism. How is it possible to be racist against Americans when Americans are actually a big stew of various races?

Also, I wouldn't go as far as saying "Israelis are racist" considering that there are a fair amount of white and black people who live in Israel, and of course Semites (the original Israelis).

Originally posted by snapperski

Israeli foreign aid may actually stop then, if Americans knew how Israeli's really feel about them.

very good point.

I bring up the same kind of point to Christians .. how can the followers of Jesus support the deniers of Jesus?

yup ..make perfect sense to me

Originally posted by votan
can someone please explain to me what a jew is and what an israeli is.

are they different?

Yes they are because the population of Israel isn't made up of only Jews. Israael is actually a multicultural nation though many wouldn't know it.

are they a race?? ethnicity?? what ?? because i am completely confused about this.

Israel is a country with multiple religions, races etc. Jews are not the only Religion in Israel. The Dome of the rock is a perfect example. It is Muslim/Islamic.

reply to post by charles1952

The majority of posters disagree. Would you please explain what you think "racism" means, and how these ads qualify?

The majority of posters actually agree with me charlie, let the thread stats reflect.

Yes, we all know, with the apparent exception of the OP, what the term "racist" means

Come on charlie, i know your a reasonably smart guy, and i know you understand the definition of racism is not soley based on race but also discrimination on a culture.

Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial.

According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere.[7]

Honestly Charlie i appreciate your stern defense of Israel, but come on, they do push it to the limit and over in every thing they do.

And i like many others in this thread find these ads very offensive, and to add insult to injury the Israeli foreign minister said after they were pulled they didn't realise the sensibility of Americans, which is so ironic coming from Israeli's who get insulted with anything critical of Israel.

reply to post by charles1952


Israel made this a racial/ethnic/cultural issue by telling Israeli Jews that they might be better off not marrying American Jews -- which begs the question: what about shiksas/goyim? Guess that's a major no-no, huh?

Perhaps racist isn't the correct term, however, so let's go with BIGOTED -- that's a purdee expansive and all-inclusive word to describe this kind of despicable shizzle promulgated by the Israeli government. Moreover, these ads were essentially subsidized by the US government since the US gives $3 billion a year to Israel to use to continue its lebensraum campaign against Palestinians. If Israel didn't get this $3 billion, perhaps it wouldn't have the money to make such atrocious, bigoted ads, as well as spend millions in lobbying the US government through AIPAC. Needless to say, the IDF would also have less money to bulldoze Palestinian houses, and to wage war and ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians; thus, Israel would be forced to honestly negotiate a peace settlement.

OP, thank you very much for bringing this to our attention, as I wasn't aware of these ads.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
These ads came out last year. Don't see what this has to do about christmas.

Well actually did you view the videos? One of them brings up the issue of Christmas as it regards bringing up Jewish kids in America, where they will be exposed to this apparently shameful goyim holiday, and thereby undermining Jewish kids' view and understanding of Chanuka.

That said, I don't see that the OP tied this post to Yuletide season, he only happened to bring it up now because he just heard about it. Should he have brought it up in November instead or wait until January? Clearly February would be an inappropriate month for it as well, being that it's African-American History month...

Originally posted by Antonio1
reply to post by snapperski

 

How is this not an Israel bashing thread? Your intro sure sounded like that. By the way, most of the world has negative stereotypes about Americans, not just Israel.

Do any other countries besides Israel have the chutzpah to run commercials in the US telling their countrymen/women not to marry Americans and to come back home? Moreover, does any other country that gets over $3 billion in military aid each year from the US sponsor such ads?

[CHIRPING CRICKETS]

Originally posted by lambs to lions

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

I always find the responses to threads like this more telling, then the actual subject matter.........people really expose themselves for who they are

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I love Israel, it is a proud nation with a rich culture. It is unique because it is probably the only place on the planet that has the same religion, unchanged, since it's dawn in history. Walking down an Israeli street, you can see billboards that could be read by it's people's ancestors, thousands of years ago.

What does this say about me?

Israel has Arab citizens who do not practice Judaism. You seem to be suggesting that Israel is a Jewish-only state with a national religion. WHICH strikes me as a rather racist and bigoted notion -- not that you think this, but that there is a country that operates this way.