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Originally posted by sirhumperdink
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by AfterInfinity
It's not so much the cost as it is the number of people dependent on government that is disturbing.
We now have a sizeable population dependent on government to eat! This is indicative of failed policy and it is only getting worse!
which failed policy or policies?
please elaborate
Originally posted by DoYouEvenLift
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by DoYouEvenLift
reply to post by NavyDoc
This tired argument..
How can someone that doesn't know how to do math be expected to read a book?!?!
Got to be a tad more specific. One problem with a website that has a "reply to" without quoting button, is that sometimes you don't know what another person is referencing.
If you are referring to the comparing the salary of a government employee to a welfare benefit, the actual amount has nothing to do with the underlying principle--that one gets payment for a service provided and the other gets payment for nothing.edit on 11-12-2012 by NavyDoc because: (no reason given)
What service is being provided by a government employee?
Originally posted by DoYouEvenLift
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by DoYouEvenLift
reply to post by NavyDoc
This tired argument..
How can someone that doesn't know how to do math be expected to read a book?!?!
Got to be a tad more specific. One problem with a website that has a "reply to" without quoting button, is that sometimes you don't know what another person is referencing.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Now please tell me how a government that cannot be trusted with vaccinations or is responsible for destroying the family farm suddenly becomes altruistic where welfare is concerned?
You are implying an artificial bifurcation of an incredibly complex social construct.edit on 11-12-2012 by DoYouEvenLift because: (no reason given)
oh yes, we can because no such thing exists.
but you cannot deny that keeping up a military is one of the duties of the federal government as outlined in our Constitution
what good will our soldiers be to Americans, when they are on foreign soil ??
If you aren't man enough to give your spares away to a family in need, then someone with a family to feed can be man enough to TAKE them away
Originally posted by Honor93
just cause you said it doesn't make it so.
however, you are free to believe it just don't expect many to support your opinion.
Originally posted by Honor93
you are confused.
if you want fair, how 'bout we pay today's military an equivalent of what the Tuskegee Airmen got ?? (with inflation of course)
you know, those guys who made the war winnable ??
Originally posted by Honor93
i don't agree with the government taking more, i'd prefer they manage what they get, better.
[well, i'd prefer less but i also think that's fantasy at this point]
Originally posted by Honor93
it does matter.
without food, ppl die.
without shelter, ppl adapt.
oh for heavens sake, what does age have to do with it ?
hungry is hungry.
should we beg for water too ?
Originally posted by Honor93
i do help, i've been helping but i also benefit from the assistance of others.
the govt says i don't qualify for their help.
from the form ... you are not 65 or older
you do not meet the disability requirement
(ie, not disabled enough)
no household members are eligible for this program
now, what more should i do ? there are no other govt programs to apply to. it's me (and trade) or it's nothing aside from the charity of others. [unless you expect me to grill my felines]
Originally posted by Honor93
a band-aid ?? are you serious
hardly a good analogy.
Originally posted by Honor93
why are you so adamant about a "cut" to a program that utilizes so few available resources ??
heck, we could cut our foreign aid to one country and double the benefits for those who get them now ... let's not be stupid about this discussion, eh ?
whoever said that ?? not i.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
reply to post by Honor93
LOL. So let me get this straight: the same malicious, corrupt government that is killing people with vaccinations and destroying the family farm is the same altruistic government that is the only thing that can feed poor people and must be trusted with redistribution of billions of dollars to the underprivileged. LOL.
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by NavyDoc
oh yes, we can because no such thing exists.
but you cannot deny that keeping up a military is one of the duties of the federal government as outlined in our Constitution
there is no provision for a "standing army".
there are plenty of arguments against that specific thing (standing army) in the Federalist papers, have you ever read them ?
our current military is not providing defense for Americans.
if you believe it is, please point out who has attacked/invaded us this decade?
oh, that's right, those ppl aren't even being tracked, gathered or sent back ... nvm.
and if or when this happens ...what good will our soldiers be to Americans, when they are on foreign soil ??
If you aren't man enough to give your spares away to a family in need, then someone with a family to feed can be man enough to TAKE them away
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
You guys making fun of the military, need to have served at least two years.
My husband when into the Marines right out of High School, and served in Vietnam, you know what the military taught him, a strong work effort.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by DoYouEvenLift
We were already buying their oil. So, we invade to buy their oil, when we were already buying their oil???
and for the record, you didn't live my life so you don't know what it's like, do you ?
Because you sad it with your "don't know what it is like" crapola