Food Stamp Use Up 1.44 million in Just One Month

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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
Id rather my tax dollars go to someones food rather than to someone to post on ATS.


 
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You are an enabler, how about being one that encourages others with solutions..




posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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Or how about feeding those posting on ATS?
I am so tired of being told that the Govt is the cure to everyone's woes and that all we have to do, is hand over more money and control to the Govt, who has yet to manage anything correctly.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:16 AM
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Yes.

Enabling the hungry to eat.

Seriously? Im an enabler? How is that? By paying my taxes? By voting? By posting on ATS?
How exactly am I perpetuating the use of food stamps?


 
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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Govt is of course far from perfect. We all know that.

The thing is, can you imagine if something like FEMA were a privatized entity? It would exist for profit and it would be a disaster. That's the problem with healthcare. We have a healthcare cost problem. Govt isnt the perfect answer, but it is a far better answer than having a koch brother fund alternative.


 
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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If you don't want YOUR taxes going to hungry folks,
I don't want MY taxes going to the infrastructure YOU are using to get online,
or the roads YOU use to get anywhere,
or the police, fire, water, and electrical grid YOU use,
I don't want to pay to keep YOUR gas prices lower,
I don't want to pay to keep YOUR doctor properly educated and licensed.

Like it or not, The United States has been Socialist for a long time, we are just doing it wrong.
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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One more thing before I go clean a house,

My husband and I have paid tax all our lives, we are those people, those seemingly invisible people that fall though the cracks, the ones no one notices, we have no healthcare but we pay taxes so that others that don't work do,

now it is those same people that would begrudge my husband and myself the benefits from working all these years.

ironic
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:27 AM
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Yup.

The right's noise machine is trying to force on us this belief that these ideas are foreign to this country.

This thread specifically seems to imply that the answer is "just go get a job".

Some people are so far removed from reality that it's scary. This is because the Bill Oreilly viewer average age is 65 years. They grew up during a time of wonderful post war prosperity. Jobs were abounding and wages were great and everyone could afford to live middle class.

Today is vastly different. The only thing which hasn't changed is the mindset of those screaming about foodstamps while they claim everyone else is lazy. It's quite scary.


 
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by macman
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Or how about feeding those posting on ATS?
I am so tired of being told that the Govt is the cure to everyone's woes and that all we have to do, is hand over more money and control to the Govt, who has yet to manage anything correctly.



I agree Mac, the government waste is astronomical and some of the things they spend money on borders on insanity.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:31 AM
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No, reading comprehension is quite alive and well. What I see is someone complaining that the government is not doing enough to take care of his grandmother
then your comprehension is completely dysfunctional.

the story teller is talking about his grandmother, not himself.
how do you know he isn't disabled and not physically capable of providing for his grandmother ?

second, the story teller is talking about his grandmother's benefits, not his own.

third, his grandmother EARNED her SS benefit which should have included a COL increase of $12 but not only is it deficient, but the government is also reducing her supplement of food assistance an additional $5.

so yes, your comprehension needs some SERIOUS work.
from the post linked, you don't know if he is supplying her groceries or not, yet, you ASSume such from the get go ... aren't you generous ?

i wonder, when was the last time you got along and fed yourself for $700 per Month, not per week like service members get.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by Jobeycool
U.S. government and politics has become reckless to some degree.People do not take in account how many of these people lie to get footstamps over spend to get to much food.Could work but won't work at a grocery store or Mcdonalds type of job.
They don't take in account how bad these people ruin the economy because a-lot of them could work if they had to.I remember when old people worked because they where bored to death and would work at minumim wage jobs just to get out of the house.People use to take a ton of pride in everything in this country and that seems to be going down the drain as well.
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yes they could work.... if there were jobs available that paid a living wage
sure there are people that game the system but they are few and far between
the overwhelming majority are on assistance because they can not find work as there are no jobs they are qualified for available or they are not making enough working their current job to make ends meet
how many job openings do you think are available in this country right now? now how many people are there out of work?
simple fact of the matter is that there are not enough jobs to employee everybody and as our technology increases and our rates of production increase the problem will only become worse because you need far fewer people to do the same job (and its more profitable to shift jobs to less developed countries that will accept lower pay and increase profit margins..... pretty dangerous combination)

seems kind of counter intuitive that as we produce more for cheaper that the economy would suffer right? and thats why capitalism is doomed to fail (it worked for a long time but its obsolete in the modern world)
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
One more thing before I go clean a house,

My husband and I have paid tax all our lives, we are those people, those seemingly invisible people that fall though the cracks, the ones no one notices, we have no healthcare but we pay taxes so that others that don't work do,

now it is those same people that would begrudge my husband and myself the benefits from working all these years.

ironic
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Are you seriously of the belief that the unemployed are begrudging your benefits?



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:39 AM
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I advice you take a closer look at the first post I made on this thread. For this year, food stamps account for less than 1/1000 of the national deficit. If you want to complain about wasting money, look somewhere else.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain


Govt is of course far from perfect. We all know that.

So, lets increase it's size and consumption???
That is asinine.


Originally posted by spinalremain
The thing is, can you imagine if something like FEMA were a privatized entity?

How did little old States and Cities get along before it was created.
The only reason is to bring more and more under Federal Control.
And if the State doesn't play nice with the Fed, then they withhold FEMA funds.
It is just more control.



Originally posted by spinalremain
It would exist for profit and it would be a disaster.

Yeah, because when comparing the success rate between Govt and Private industry, the GOvt is just tops.



Originally posted by spinalremain
That's the problem with healthcare. We have a healthcare cost problem.

No, we have a meddling Govt problem.



Originally posted by spinalremain
Govt isnt the perfect answer, but it is a far better answer than having a koch brother fund alternative.

No, no it is not.
Again, please compare what the Govt does, to a free market answer and tell me which is successful?
The Govt can print money, can tax people to cover costs, hasn't passed a budget in 4 years, can create new laws to protect itself, answers really to no one these days.
Don't see where private industry has these abilities.

Again, I am tired of you and others like you pitching this idea that the Govt will and can solve all of our woes.
It can't. It never has and never will.
The Govt could screw up a wet dream and collective can't wipe it's own butt without screwing something else up.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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*wow*
Pages of hate.

Folks, sit down for a second.

(waiting for everyone to sit down)

Okay. Good. Conservatives don't hate people on foodstamps. Conservatives hate that 48 million people ARE on foodstamps. We're mad at the tax and spend-over regulating-pee on the people, pander-til-you-puke, governmnt for creating an environment where 48 million people are on foodstamps.

Government writes the rules.
Government writes the tax laws.

You fine folk are defending the same people that PUT you in the position where you have to be on foodstamps.

Understand?
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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What government provided sustenance? My growth enhanced his demise? LOL talk about assumptions. "Demise" "inability to provide for hismother" LOL. Talk about assumptions. The entitlement and victim mentalities strike again.

at least my assumptions are more logical than yours.
government provided sustenance -- were you or were not in the armed services as your avatar and commentary indicate ?
if you were, there's you answer.

your growth enhanced his demise ? possibly ... you're a fan of vaccines, aren't ya ?
why not ?? your actions may have made it impossible for him to finish an education or to get a proper education. he could be disabled from any number of issues directly related to the armed services and their activities.
are you that dense, really ?

entitlement and victim mentality ... is that what your promoting ?
guess it takes one to recognize one, eh ?



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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I think people are defending the hungry. I think we are all on board with the notion that the government is broken.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by winterkill
www.fns.usda.gov...

48 million people are now on food stamps.
That's 1.44 million up from last month. Even taking into account some of those are from Sandy, that's still a shocking jump. It explains what all of those people who fell off of the employment numbers last week are doing.
Yes, that's right, those rosy employment figures reading unemployment is down to 7.7 only say that because half a million people dropped off of their stat charts.
Smoke and mirrors, don't let it fool you


Obama's legacy. Screw up the economy so badly that the same people that got screwed over by the government now have to rely on the government in order to survive.

Way to go 51%! You voted this person in. OWN IT!
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yeah .....please shop at wal-mart.....because you the taxpayer are subsidizing their billions in profits with food stamps
www.dailykos.com...

oh yeah, i forgot, it's only the brown skinned, uneducated, and lazy people that get food stamps.
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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I am not complaining, and I am not against feeding the hungry, for the love of god, I am just offering solutions, to free people from dependence.

Some don't want to be free, many do.

Now let's go back to a tribal society, everyone,

THAT CAN, pulls their weight.

Do you think a healthy member of a tribe could sit around and do nothing all day?



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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how did the government put people on food stamps?
by not taxing the living hell out of any company that outsources jobs? (because anytime a bill comes forward to raise taxes on companies operating overseas the republicans filibuster and refuse to allow a vote on the matter)
what?
are you going to suggest our workforce should be competing with china or africa for jobs? (i would like to see what our economy looks like when people are getting paid $2 a day)
i would like to hear how you would solve this dilemma
to get people off of assistance you need to provide them with jobs that pay a living wage so how are you going to increase the number of jobs in this country?



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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You fine folk are defending the same people that PUT you in the position where you have to be on foodstamps.

Understand?


No, they don't get it.





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