New Evidence of Voting Fraud with Prop 37 Initiative to Label GMO’s, page 1

New Evidence of Voting Fraud with Prop 37 Initiative to Label GMO’s, page

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Topic started on 10-12-2012 @ 04:15 AM by purplemer

After election day most of us heard that Prop 37, the initiative to label GMO foods failed to gather enough support to get a majority vote at the ballot box, and after that it more or less disappeared from the news altogether.

However, this announcement was made prematurely and all of the votes were never actually counted. Now, as the Dec 14 deadline for the turn in of the votes approaches, more evidence of voter fraud is coming to light.

According to Food Democracy Now: “Right now the votes for Prop 37 to label genetically engineered foods are still being counted. On Tuesday morning, Dec 4th, Prop 37 hit 6,004,628 votes on the California Secretary of State’s website, but this tally was quickly reversed within an hour of being publicized by Food Democracy Now!

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This stink to high heavens. The right to have GM food labeled in the US is being stolen from the people. Independent staticians are saying that there is something wrong with the data too.. I do not really get how half the people in California would vote not to have GM food labelled...

reply posted on 10-12-2012 @ 04:28 AM by mideast

Democracy is not an ideal way of running a dominion.

There can be fraud every time.

reply posted on 10-12-2012 @ 04:30 AM by charles1952

In both of the displays, it shows the "No" votes are ahead. Pick either one and the proposition still loses.

I think you're making a leap in calling it fraud. First, they are described as "semi-official" results, and second, it could just as easily have been a mistake. I don't think there's proof of fraud shown here.

P.s. And 18,000 votes out of over 12 million? That's all they're getting out of "vote fraud?" I can't accept it. It's too small an amount to be fraud run at the state level.

edit on 10-12-2012 by charles1952 because: add P.s.

reply posted on 10-12-2012 @ 04:54 AM by fluff007

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At the same time, Food Democracy Now! has learned that a team of independent statisticians have detected “statistical anomalies” in the largest precincts of 9 counties, including Orange, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Alameda and San Diego counties.”

Could you explain the statistical anomalies then..? It says that approx. over 6 millions people voted on this issue, and roughly about half of those votes were against the labelling... Now, why would people not want their food labelled whether GM or not...? Dont make sense.....

reply posted on 10-12-2012 @ 04:56 AM by BlindBastards

Who would vote ‘no’ anyway? That’s just illogical. Only good can come from voting yes.

reply posted on 10-12-2012 @ 05:34 AM by charles1952

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Dear fluff007,

Excellent questions. You've asked two and I can't answer either one. (I feel so inadequate

)

How do I explain statistical anomalies? No idea. I don't know what they were, the number of votes involved, nothing. I was responding to the OP's claim of fraud based on the change in the online report, the screens that showed that of the 12 million votes cast, the "no" voters were ahead by a few hundred thousand.

How do I explain anyone voting "no?" Again, I don't know. I can't figure out the voters in this country. Heck, they re-elected Obama, what could they have been thinking?

I don't even know what arguments were used by the opponents. I thought I heard about a slight increase in cost because of labelling?

My own argument, had anybody asked, would have been that labelling something GMO would lead to the use of the same type of scare tactics used to demonize Alar and apples. The Alar fuss was a fraud from the beginning, but environmentalists said informing the public justified the lying.

With respect,
Charles1952

reply posted on 10-12-2012 @ 05:34 AM by Son of Will