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Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
reply to post by SpearMint
Atheism isn't an ideology, and it isn't alternative, more people are Atheists than Hindus and Buddists
those who do not belief in God are in the minority for sure.
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Anyway, why does the religious side always feel so attacked? There is nothing in the theory of evolution that denies the possible existence of god. Ooh, there is no need for him/her/it? Well, but there is no need NOT for him/her/it. So, the theory of evolutions says NOTHING about god.
And that would be a good thing since "religionists" as you call it ... believe in the Zoroastrian philosophy of "free will" which would be the opposite of the rabid communist/socialist philosophy running rampant in the Obama administration.
Odd that the atheist supporters on this site seem to always request "proof" when they themselves can not offer any to support their own BELIEFS... yet act as if what they say is right and true because it's "logical".
You talk about not wanting a "religious" person as President, while at the same time speaking as if an atheist would be preferential ... that's called "talking out of both sides of your face."
Originally posted by AQuestion
Originally posted by Wongbeedman
reply to post by lambs to lions
If you think there's some kind of atheist "agenda" then you're mistaken.
And its interesting to see you post a Hitchens video after your fellow Christians disgustingly celebrated his death on twitter. I don't mean to paint all of you with the same brush, you've done that to yourself already.
LOL. You have spoken to every Christian and we all believe the exact same thing. You must have a lot of free time, I would never claim that I had spoken to every Atheist. If I take the words of a few and attribute them to all, I will be just like you. You have become the thing you hate.
Originally posted by lambs to lions
For those who aren't familiar with the term "New Atheism"
New Atheism is the name given to the ideas promoted by a collection of modern atheist writers who have advocated the view that "religion should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever its influence arises.
I would argue that many times there is no "rational" argument involved...
I will start by stating that I am a Christian, and although I am not Catholic, I attend mass two or three times a month. I do this because my wife is a Catholic school teacher and my kids attend the same school. It is a good opportunity to be involved with my family on a spiritual level, and its no skin off my teeth to attend. Next, I would like to say that although I am a believer, I respect those who do not and try not to impress my beliefs on others as I feel that it is counterproductive. Instead, I try to respectfully converse with others when the topics of religion come up. However, I will defend Christianity when I feel it is being wrongly attacked, misstated, or distorted. Now that you know a little about me....
New Atheism is running rampant on ATS. It is a growing form of guerrilla warfare designed to attack religion and deceive the masses. It is fueled by hate and spews misinformation. There is a constant barrage of these anti-religion propaganda threads popping up on this website. Sometimes they hide under the guise of something else; sometimes that are blatant. They almost never have anything to do with an actual conspiracy, alternative news, philosophy, or anything else truly relevant to ATS. This is why I state that the proponents of New Atheism are USING our forums to push their agenda. This becomes apparent when you take notice of the many new members whose first threads pertain to this. T & Cs state that I cannot point out examples of this or name members by name, but most of us are astute enough to take notice.
Now, I know that believing in God, the Bible, and Jesus is not popular on this site. I'm completely okay with that. It gives me an opportunity to engage in many civil and interesting conversations with believers and non-believers alike. What does bother me is when I see so many people whose entire problem with the above mentioned is based on ignorance. Many times their opinions aren't their opinions at all. Meaning they haven't done any kind of reading or research whatsoever on the subjects. This is poor grounds to stand on for any debate, not just a religious one. I see a correlation with these "sponges' who have soaked up the New Atheism agenda with little or no research of their own. Then, turn around like good little soldiers and regurgitate the same, unfounded nonsense.
I think many of you will agree that there is a great many of young minds on ATS. Many of them are searching for answers to a variety of questions. Some of these questions may be of the most profound kind. I'm okay with anyone finding the answers they are looking for, even if I disagree with them. My problem is a movement such as this infiltrating these minds and planting seeds of hate...and by doing so, growing their numbers.
I willingly give my respect as a fellow human to Atheists, who am I to judge? I despise these militant New Atheists, they are paramount to religious radicals. ATS would be much better of without them.
For those interested in a good, educated, and friendly "is there a God?" debate...it is lengthy, but educational. It pits Christopher Hitchens who was one of the worlds foremost Atheist speakers and authors against William Lane Craig, one of the worlds foremost Theologian and Apologist. It takes place at Biola University.
Christopher Hitchens vs. William Lane Craig
Originally posted by lambs to lions
They almost never have anything to do with an actual conspiracy, alternative news, philosophy, or anything else truly relevant to ATS. This is why I state that the proponents of New Atheism are USING our forums to push their agenda. This becomes apparent when you take notice of the many new members whose first threads pertain to this. T & Cs state that I cannot point out examples of this or name members by name, but most of us are astute enough to take notice.
Originally posted by onecraftydude
Why do you even care what people say on a website?
You single out God haters and call them a new name because that makes you feel better about defending your position on God and makes them all look like a-holes. How convenient!
And while you are at it you make yourself look like a saint. Even more convenient!
I don't think your mind is capable of understanding this argument, but give it a shot:
It might seem like you are being attacked because you love God. The truth is that as you go around spewing God talk and demeaning those of a different opinion so you ostracize those you think you are trying to help. People can only handle being chided like a dumb child for so long.
I don't believe for one minute that there is anything on this or other websites that is "Organized" against any religion. I think you made it up or someone of your same belief did and you are passing it around as fact. That is easy for you since there is absolutely no fact in the Bible that can be proven.
I hear a lot of Islam bashi9ng from "Christians" yet all of the people doing that bashing are above reproach for their behavior. If you think that your belief should remove you from reproach for your actions you are sadly mistaken. People don't like Christians because of what Christians DO not because there is some conspiracy. You have made your own bed by your actions and it is justified in my opinion.
And just in case you think I don't know what I am talking about a little history about me. My parents and all of my family are Christian. I was Christian! I was raised Catholic. I was reborn. I graduated from a Catholic university. So please tell me I don't know anything about Christians!
You are part of a religious group who thinks they are right and everyone else is wrong. You would love to see America turned into a "Christian" country, in fact, you already think it is one! This country is made up of ALL religions. There is no "Right " religion! All that type of mentality produces is animosity.
I think you and those who act like you are the ones who fan the flames of hatred of your religion. Go ahead and blame some made up opponent if you like, but you only deny any responsibility by doing so.
Originally posted by korathin
Because we are still able to defend ourselves they will use words designed to play off our conscience, but the moment they are allowed to, they will always seek to wipe us out.
Originally posted by lambs to lions
reply to post by jude11
Perception is in the eye of the beholder I suppose. I'm not saying that it hasn't happened, but I see the anti-religious threads time and time again. I don't see many threads spouting off about "the damn Atheists are holding us back"