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Originally posted by khimbar
reply to post by longlostbrother
There isn't a verifiable source for the Hilary Clinton one the OP picked out either. In fact of the ones picked out by the OP how many actually have independently verifiable providence?
Originally posted by VelvetSplash
Guys, look at your sources, try to corroborate them, and most of all when making a thread put some thought in to it and make sure you're not just cut and pasting some trash from a 14 year old's blog.
Originally posted by jude11
Some truly eye opening statements from World Leaders, Military, Professors and Corporate heads. All laying out the plan of a New World Order in the works as more of us are becoming aware of only today.
So Jude, Don't be afraid. Come clean. Did you post Hoax-porn???
Our friend VelvetSplash, raises honorable questions and I feel compelled to align myself with the chosen ones who have cast a mighty shadow on your false and misleading statements.
However, in fairnes, what do YOU have to say for yourself, Jude?? (you were made to make it better...) LMAO!!
Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by ItDepends
Don't be just another "useless eater", open your eyes, look into the UN, and make your own judgement.
There's a lot of disinfo paid people posting here.
Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by ItDepends
Don't be just another "useless eater", open your eyes, look into the UN, and make your own judgement.
There's a lot of disinfo paid people posting here.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by ItDepends
Don't be just another "useless eater", open your eyes, look into the UN, and make your own judgement.
There's a lot of disinfo paid people posting here.
Yes yes, anyone that disagrees with you is being paid by the government. Blah blah blah.
Originally posted by ItDepends
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by ItDepends
Don't be just another "useless eater", open your eyes, look into the UN, and make your own judgement.
There's a lot of disinfo paid people posting here.
Yes yes, anyone that disagrees with you is being paid by the government. Blah blah blah.
Hmm, Happy1? Our brother Longlostbrother, does raise a valid observation. Conspiracy? We don't sign up for your subscription and we are labeled "useless eater" s?:
Very good brother Longlostbrother: Much misinformation being posted by trolls. Who are we to believe?edit on 11-12-2012 by ItDepends because: (no reason given)
Hilarious that you should say that, considering this thread is based on lies written by anti-NWO folks...So I guess that means we SHOULD want a NWO since anti-NWO people are willing to lie to stop it? Or maybe tactics and outcomes are two separate things? You tell me.
Originally posted by elysiumfire
Longlostbrother:
Hilarious that you should say that, considering this thread is based on lies written by anti-NWO folks...So I guess that means we SHOULD want a NWO since anti-NWO people are willing to lie to stop it? Or maybe tactics and outcomes are two separate things? You tell me.
Wow! Such a quick innane, but laughable response! The fact that you say a whole lot of nothing with so few words makes you quite irrelevant and unworthy of even this small piece of attention. Begone fool, and be forever lost!
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Believe what you can prove to be true, at least to the best of your ability.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
The most important question in THIS case is:
Why is someone making up quotes like this? What's THEIR goal?
Very good, logical question longllost brother!! What is THEIR goal?
quote]Originally posted by longlostbrother
Right-wing propagandists KNOW their supporters don't fact check, are gullible, and blindly spread propaganda
Originally posted by elysiumfire
Longlostbrother:
Hilarious that you should say that, considering this thread is based on lies written by anti-NWO folks...So I guess that means we SHOULD want a NWO since anti-NWO people are willing to lie to stop it? Or maybe tactics and outcomes are two separate things? You tell me.
Wow! Such a quick innane, but laughable response! The fact that you say a whole lot of nothing with so few words makes you quite irrelevant and unworthy of even this small piece of attention. Begone fool, and be forever lost!
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by elysiumfire
Nice dodge. Can't answer the question, can you?
If tactics ALONE, as you state, make a message or goal invalid, what does it say about the anti-NWO movement, when it's members lie through their teeth?
Go on.
Answer the question.
And try and do it with out reverting to your most base instincts this time.
Originally posted by jude11
Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
reply to post by jacobe001
"It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." —from The Grand Chessboard, Brzezinski 1997
This quote has been taken out of context. How do I know? Because I actually read the book unlike yourself. It argues for a scaling back of overseas military expenditures and moves towards a more strategic and diplomatic approach. Part of the reason for this strategic vision is that the US is essentially a democratic state (whether it is or not is for you to decide) and sustained conflicts involving many casualties are as such difficult or even impossible to carry out. Please actually read the book before you misquote it and take it out of context like a badgering idiot next time.
Please address the other 138 quotes instead of focusing on one that may or may not be true.
Or are you using this in an attempt to perpetuate ignorance rather than deny it?
Fair warning...you will lose in this case.
Peace
edit on 10-12-2012 by jude11 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jimmyx
Originally posted by jude11
Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
reply to post by jacobe001
"It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." —from The Grand Chessboard, Brzezinski 1997
This quote has been taken out of context. How do I know? Because I actually read the book unlike yourself. It argues for a scaling back of overseas military expenditures and moves towards a more strategic and diplomatic approach. Part of the reason for this strategic vision is that the US is essentially a democratic state (whether it is or not is for you to decide) and sustained conflicts involving many casualties are as such difficult or even impossible to carry out. Please actually read the book before you misquote it and take it out of context like a badgering idiot next time.
Please address the other 138 quotes instead of focusing on one that may or may not be true.
Or are you using this in an attempt to perpetuate ignorance rather than deny it?
Fair warning...you will lose in this case.
Peace
edit on 10-12-2012 by jude11 because: (no reason given)
what? ...he pointed out your ignorance, and now with that strange comeback, i tend to think that you might want to perpetuate your own.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
reply to post by ItDepends
I tried to be very careful and label it only as supposition.
So, why?
Do you have any guesses?
Who created these lies and why?
Love to know your theories.
Originally posted by jude11
Originally posted by Unity_99
Alot here. By their words they are convicted and the conspiracies are proved.
It's all there in black and white isn't it?
(/quote]
HMMMM, That simple is it??? I don't think so!!!!
Originally posted by jude11
Thought about putting this in the OP but just knew someone would bring it forth.
Please address the other 138 quotes instead of focusing on one that may or may not be true.
Oh nothing here to see.....move along....nothing here to see! BS!!!
Originally posted by jude11
Sorry but in my inexperienced position on ATS, maybe I'm wrong?
Oh we have some humility do we???? Well isn't that nice. WTF are you talking about then???
Originally posted by jude11
Is my math wrong?
Holy Crap Batman, now you're asking that question???? WTF????
Originally posted by jude11
If one third of the 139 quotes should be treated as unverifiable, doesn't that leave 92.66 remaining quotes?
Originally posted by jude11
If we look at even just half of these quotes as correct...it's enough.
Ummmm, "Price check please" we have a major discrepency. Sorry, no, I am not going to buy it. Full of S$$T!!!
SOOOOOOOO, my Longlostbrother, after reading the facts, and some personal investigation, Your persuasive arguments or should I say, civil debate, has placed me fully in your corner!!!! This thread is HOAX-PORN and should be shut down immediately.
I call upon the mods to just look at my quick recap and that should be enough to shut this down as fraud and a waste any further intellectual conversation.
Any of the hard headed, stuck in the mud, psuedo-intellectuals who wish to continue this fraud, Lovely for you.
As for me, I am outta here!!!!! Peace and Love!!! To All
I must admit that this "Mr. Nobody" movie really bothers me. I've been struggling with the very concept of an all-seeing eye actually watching me since I was a child and making a film about my life, but as crazy as that sounds, this seems to be the power of the occult and their looking glass. I don't know how else they could have assembled this cast of characters which is way too close to reality to be denied, and there are things in this movie that only I would know. I cannot otherwise explain how these things got in the movie. I suppose it is true, as the Illuminati say, that I have been monitored for a number of years now, by the "Source" himself...
Originally posted by skuly
reply to post by jude11
This one just creepy
18. "No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." -- David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations
S&F by the way.edit on 9/12/2012 by skuly because: adding a little colour